XJT received the grant money today per the MEC

It may be legal, and I may be biased, but as a tax payer it's pretty frustrating that outfits like XJT and RPA are furloughing pilots while still accepting money.

I understand that we were "pilot trainees," hence the loophole, but it still seems like a betrayal of the intent and spirit of the legislation.

I heard they got a $100M grant to cover 75% of the payroll and $40M in the form of a loan to cover operating expenses. I understand that the 75% doesn't cover the full payroll, but 100% of the employees aren't working either. I'm also curious about the operating expense loan. Since XJT is essentially a staffing company, and United pays for fuel, planes, ground services, etc. what actual operating expenses does the company pay for?

My understanding is that the UAL crew are already paid for, the planes are available, and fuel is cheap right now, so they are using bigger planes on some of the routes that could be covered by RJs. Since the RJs operate on a FFD schedule, if they don't fly, the company operating them doesn't get paid. It seems like it might actually be cheaper to fly the bigger plane without a full load at this point.

Airplane MX, sim techs and MX, rent on the buildings in Houston as well as Atlanta. I’m sure there are other “overhead” costs that don’t seem obvious to us pilot guys.


oh....and I think the SkyWest IT expense is still there, even though it’s almost finished.

Utilities, Insurance, Interest on loans, non flying salaries.


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Turkey vouchers, Acey Days, mini Indy....

those are all gone since they are eliminating all non essential spending.

No $6 turkey voucher this year?!?! This is outrageous! How will I feed my family! :D Boy this company has sure treated us well, almost too well.

Pizza Party’s