ExpressJet Flies West
08-17-2020, 11:06 AM
#201
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Position: A320 FO
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Originally Posted by Group W Bench
I understand you and everyone else at EV is dealing with anger, sorrow, etc about what is happening. However, what you said above couldn't be further from the truth!
NO ONE at C5 or ALPA is happy about this!
C5 didnt win anything! In fact C5 did absolutely NOTHING to entice UA to pick them, not one promise was made, not one concession was asked for or given.
The world has changed overnight. C5 MEC can do nothing other than press the company to preferential hiring of pilots of airlines that have closed, but the company doesn't have to do anything of the sort in this current climate.
C5 could fly both theirs and EV's September schedule with out having to hire anyone. I doubt block hours increase too much in 2020. I would expect very little if any hiring from C5 before the end of the year.
~W
NO ONE at C5 or ALPA is happy about this!
C5 didnt win anything! In fact C5 did absolutely NOTHING to entice UA to pick them, not one promise was made, not one concession was asked for or given.
The world has changed overnight. C5 MEC can do nothing other than press the company to preferential hiring of pilots of airlines that have closed, but the company doesn't have to do anything of the sort in this current climate.
C5 could fly both theirs and EV's September schedule with out having to hire anyone. I doubt block hours increase too much in 2020. I would expect very little if any hiring from C5 before the end of the year.
~W
It is clear from statements made by management that they know they have the upper hand. They aren't trying to sour the relationship but they also don't see much need to be dangling carrots right now.
The MEC has mostly been rebuffed in their efforts to achieve anything substantial. Should they announce that publicly and pick a big fight in this environment?
They are doing the best they can and all of us have nothing but sympathy for our fellow pilots who are losing their jobs. I wish we could help all of them. In reality we will probably only be able to help a small number.
08-17-2020, 01:25 PM
#203
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Originally Posted by Air Stang 7
The one big variable between this situation and the ones prior is the ATP/R-ATP requirement as a barrier to entry so that'll help solve some of the issues we saw in the mid 2000's. One hypothetical scenario I can think of where the stars really do align perfectly is just after the regional massacre, pax demand picks up and mainline is caught with its pants down and has no choice but to bring as much flying on line possible which would be in house. Dare to dream anyway.
08-17-2020, 01:38 PM
#205
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Position: CRJ
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half the pilots that are flying right now at the regionals shouldnt even to begin with. there was a sever shortage. I think making 70k 1st yr at a reputable regional was a good sign for a shortage. EG: not Expressjet
08-17-2020, 01:45 PM
#206
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Originally Posted by Selfmade92
half the pilots that are flying right now at the regionals shouldnt even to begin with. there was a sever shortage. I think making 70k 1st yr at a reputable regional was a good sign for a shortage. EG: not Expressjet
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08-17-2020, 02:00 PM
#207
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Originally Posted by sMFer
Y'all are talking about a future pilot shortage when we never even had one arise in the past 10 years. Lol.
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08-17-2020, 03:01 PM
#209
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Originally Posted by legacysaretough
I ABSOLUTELY guarantee you, NO former ASA pilot has applied! 
(they all HATE the 145, despite the fact it keeps them employed)
(they all HATE the 145, despite the fact it keeps them employed)
08-17-2020, 03:20 PM
#210
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Originally Posted by legacysaretough
I ABSOLUTELY guarantee you, NO former ASA pilot has applied! (they all HATE the 145, despite the fact it keeps them employed)
(they all HATE the 145, despite the fact it keeps them employed)#2for1
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