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Old 08-15-2020, 10:42 AM   #11  
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Go work for a respectable company. Lowe’s, Home Depot, heck, Chick-Fil-A....respectable? C5 ain’t it.
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Old 08-15-2020, 12:13 PM   #12  
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Go work for a respectable company. Lowe’s, Home Depot, heck, Chick-Fil-A....respectable? C5 ain’t it.
Totally agree! Several of our folks went there over the past several years. Some like it and are happy but most that I've spoken to say the training department is terrible, lousy folks running the company and many felt that they were lied to by those in their recruiting department. Hold out and jobs at more respectable regionals/lcc's will open up in due time.
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Totally agree! Several of our folks went there over the past several years. Some like it and are happy but most that I've spoken to say the training department is terrible, lousy folks running the company and many felt that they were lied to by those in their recruiting department. Hold out and jobs at more respectable regionals/lcc's will open up in due time.
Just so you are aware, “due time” is going to be 3-5 years. Absolutely no one is going to be hiring for a very long time in the 121 world.
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Just so you are aware, “due time” is going to be 3-5 years. Absolutely no one is going to be hiring for a very long time in the 121 world.
That's why I agree with Pucks post above!
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Old 08-15-2020, 07:54 PM   #15  
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By "direct help", they mean any sort of staple or seniority list integration. Why? Because that would most likely be facilitated by ALPA and those that it would help most are the very pilots they don't want in their ranks. Not all, but most of these guys/gals did nothing but complain about having to fly the 145 after they lost the CRJ flying for Delta, then United, and finally the 175 flying for EV. C5 is a relatively junior airline and most of the people they are likely trying to keep out have tons of experience at the regional level, but bring along terrible attitudes and many will continue complaining no matter where they go. Who at C5 wants to listen to stories about how much better the CRJ is or how much better their old contract was, every day, on every leg of a four day trip?
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C5 guy here.

Our current MOU prohibits the company from providing any hiring incentives (bonuses) to all new hires effective October 1. That is not a slam to EV pilots...like tallpilot said it's a reflection of the new reality.

There are rumors of a hiring priority. Haven't seen it in print but it seems appropriate. ExpressJet, TSA and other 145 typed pilots are naturally at the top of that list, followed by other UAX carriers and aviate participants. So the opportunity is yours to lose.

That said, there are also rumors that EV pilots already here are likely to help HR weed out the troublemakers, so if that aptly describes you, I wouldn't expect a call back.

Personally, if you can tolerate the crummy pay and work rules like everyone else over at C5, I encourage you to apply. If, however, you're going to suggest stocking the plumbing aisle at the Depot is more respectful than working for us or you're just going to put on a smiley face for the interview and then spend every trip moaning about your situation, please stay away. I enjoy my job precisely because the people are great, and the last thing I want to do is go to work with a bunch of complainers.
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My guess would be they are against incentives or guarantees. They (rightfully) realize it's a buyer's market for pilots and they have no intention of paying a dime more than what is in the current contract. They have indicated they wish to hire the most qualified applicants they can. Certainly typed and current pilots meet that standard.

They are wary (rightfully again) of having bitter pilots sabotaging the operation. The hardest thing is going to be eating this crap sandwich and still being a team player. I'm not sure I could do it so I won't be sanctimonious about it.

If you interview try your best to be cheerful, appreciative and don't reveal a sense of entitlement. That will give you the best chance.
Most of our BITTER pilots come from the CRJ side of ASA
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Most of our BITTER pilots come from the CRJ side of ASA
You mean the senior guys, not all of them.
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Most of our BITTER pilots come from the CRJ side of ASA
Let me fix that for you: Most of your pilots who THINK they are better come from the ASA/CRJ side. They are also the ones who complain the most!
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Let me fix that for you: Most of your pilots who THINK they are better come from the ASA/CRJ side. They are also the ones who complain the most!
you mean like this guy/gal?

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I ABSOLUTELY guarantee you, NO former ASA pilot has applied! (they all HATE the 145, despite the fact it keeps them employed)
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