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Old 05-31-2008, 08:41 PM
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Spoken like a true bean counter. Man I've known you wanted to work for Larry, but never to this degree.
Thanks. Yes I like to take an objective and constructive look at things and would like to work at CAL.
Second, the board just re-elected Ream for another round, no offence, but they know a little better than a 1 year f/o working for a company that has nothing to do with this.
Yes they did. I only judge on their performances to speak for their decision making abilities.
Moving on, anytime you launch a new airline there are cost associated with it and everyone was on board with it, including the majority of the board.
If by everyone you mean employees at XJT then yes they were because it meant they wouldn't lose jobs. Outside of that most people opposed it and sighted Indy Air as the prime reason. They still do to this day.
It's all business, keeping the aircraft was a business decision, driven by a company culture you're unfamiliar with because you work for RAH. (You could've worked here, but you blew the interview, sorry pal, but everyone should know why you have such bad blood for XJT).
Yes it was a business decision and I'm glad you've finally acknowledged it. It was a business decision that ended up being a bad business decision. Secondly, I never to this day have interviewed with XJT. I never blew any interview. I had three places I wanted to work. RAH, SKYW, and XJT. I was hired at RAH and took it because it also has a Houston base. Later they decided to only base the CRJ there as we were/are short of frames. I've never to this day had "bad blood" for the company. I've never to this day had anything but the utmost respect for the place and how it treats its employees and I've never once spoken ill of the pilot group that works there. We're talking business. Why business? Because that's what matters now. The company is trying to stave off being purchased, turn a profit on branded, and avoid laying off many employees. Why are they doing this? Because it's all business related. Just like you said earlier. It's business decisions. You're looking at things from the wrong point of view.

Duck, you and your speculation, saying how CAL does and doesn't want to work with us, where do you get your official word from brother? CAL did pull Even better, post the source of it all. My friend all you've done is speculate, like the investment brokers in wall street when they panic, like the boyd group two months after the facts come out, like the hedge fund guys that are in it for the short term.
There has been nothing but public displays of CALs intents. XJT didn't want to go branded remember? There's no single "source of it all" but here's a slice of the future.
Mr. George R. Bravante, Jr.
Chairman
ExpressJet Holdings, Inc.
700 North Sam Houston Parkway, Suite 200
Houston, TX 77067

Dear Jim and George:
We understand that SkyWest, Inc. (“SkyWest”) has delivered to you an offer to acquire ExpressJet Holdings, Inc. (“ExpressJet”). In connection with your consideration of such offer, we wanted to inform you of our understanding with SkyWest regarding a new capacity purchase agreement (“CPA”) and our intentions regarding our existing contractual relationship.
First, we confirm that we have negotiated a new CPA with SkyWest, which would become effective if SkyWest is successful in acquiring ExpressJet (which, in turn, is subject to due diligence, among other things), and that we would consent to the change of control that would occur upon such an acquisition.
Second, absent our entering into a new CPA with savings of the magnitude we have negotiated with SkyWest, we currently expect to deliver to ExpressJet on June 28, 2008, a notice to withdraw 51 of the existing 205 Covered Aircraft from the current CPA, beginning in December 2009. Further, although we have the right to terminate the existing CPA at any time, we currently anticipate we will not extend the term of the current CPA (which we must do, if at all, by December 31, 2008), and thus the current CPA would simply expire in accordance with its terms beginning on December 31, 2010, with the expectation that all aircraft would be removed from the current CPA by the end of 2012.
We hope this information is helpful to you.
Sincerely,

Jeffrey J. Misner
Executive Vice-President and Chief Financial Officer
Continental Airlines, Inc.
My friend you come on here as if you knew the inner workings of our company, you don't, all you know is what you read on the internet. Get educated and form your own opinion, instead of trying to feed us the day to day yahoo finance forums.
I've said all along these are my own opinions and they are educated ones. What information are you privy to as an employee that others aren't? I'd rather be proven wrong by factual information instead of strong feelings for your company. I don't come here as if I know the inner workings. I simply don't ignore the information that has been provided publicly. I act as a bean counter because no matter how much you hate it they're the ones that make the world turn. Don't be upset because some of us want to make educated decisions and want to know everything they can about their industry. Don't be upset because some of us have owned stock in the company and did their homework and made a purely financial decision that turned out to be a good one.

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Old 05-31-2008, 08:45 PM
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Misner is officially retiring, and the skywest deal is dead in the water for now. Is that the best you can do? I rest my case.

(And yes, I know who you are, I know you interviewed, aviation is a small world, particularly where you went to flight school........)
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Old 05-31-2008, 08:56 PM
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Misner is officially retiring, and the skywest deal is dead in the water for now. Is that the best you can do? I rest my case.

(And yes, I know who you are, I know you interviewed, aviation is a small world, particularly where you went to flight school........)
Nothing additional would be required for someone who's mind isn't clouded on the subject. Secondly like I said before I never to this day have interviewed at XJT. Aviation is indeed a small world but you must have me confused with someone else. Whatever you think you know of me is inaccurate. I only interviewed at two places. SKYW and RAH. SKYW wanted 121 and previous jet time guys. RAH didn't and hired me. I took it for the Houston base but ended up taking the ERJ as it gave me about 2 months more seniority. Looking back it was a smart move as I'm much closer to upgrade. While I wasn't hired at SKYW I still think very highly of that company as well. I'd never base my opinions of a company on if I was hired or not. I'm many things but I'm not shallow and I'm not a liar. I never interviewed at XJT. The best thing you could do is not make this personal. Nothing good can come of it.

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Old 05-31-2008, 10:44 PM
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Toilet you really need to watch what you have been saying. What ever happened to your 1.5 year upgrades you were praising? .

Would 16 months be close enough to 1.5 years fer ya ?
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Old 06-01-2008, 05:39 AM
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upgrade upgrade upgrade.....................Where is that going to get you when the majors furlough in the fall?????????? Its going to get you in line with thousand's of other more qualified pilots then yourselves................

The pay bump is great, the experience is even better but Upgrades change. Im sick of everyone dogging on XJT because we were dealt a very sh*tty hand by CAL. We are working out the issues and we will come out of this, unfortunately we will have some bruises. I have met people that could do more for me then 1,000hrs of PIC would anyway Hindsight is 20/20 the top regional of today will be the struggling one a year from now, nobody is immune. Stop pointing fingers and focus on working on a great contract when your time comes, because like this current downturn YOU NEVER KNOW HOW LONG YO3+U WILL BE AT THE REGIONAL LEVEL.

I think SkyWest was made to look like the bad guy in this whole thing when in reality they were just the brokers. Brad Rich (sp), and Jerry Atkin spoke with us not as our superiors, but as our equals. They were very respectful and and gave us all the information we asked for. I don't agree with the deal that was on the table, but they are management, that is there job, running an airline that costs as little as possible and offers the greatest value to the shareholders. Its just business.

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Old 06-01-2008, 07:50 AM
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I think SkyWest was made to look like the bad guy in this whole thing when in reality they were just the brokers. Brad Rich (sp), and Jerry Atkin spoke with us not as our superiors, but as our equals. They were very respectful and and gave us all the information we asked for. I don't agree with the deal that was on the table, but they are management, that is there job, running an airline that costs as little as possible and offers the greatest value to the shareholders. Its just business.
Thank you SO MUCH for posting this. In speaking with other Expressjet folks I had the impression that our guys were arrogant and disrespectful towards your MEC. It's really good to hear that not everybody felt that way, because I have a good deal of respect for JA and I'd hate to think that he was a dick to you all.

And thanks for having the balls to do what was best for your pilot group (and ours, as well)--I hope things either pick up for you or SKW comes back with a much better offer.
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski View Post
I think SkyWest was made to look like the bad guy in this whole thing when in reality they were just the brokers. Brad Rich (sp), and Jerry Atkin spoke with us not as our superiors, but as our equals. They were very respectful and and gave us all the information we asked for. I don't agree with the deal that was on the table, but they are management, that is there job, running an airline that costs as little as possible and offers the greatest value to the shareholders. Its just business.

Hear, Hear !!! That is one heck of a change in attitude; maybe there is hope for continued rational thinking.
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Old 06-01-2008, 08:21 AM
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Hear, Hear !!! That is one heck of a change in attitude; maybe there is hope for continued rational thinking.
haah yeah, like I said I didn't like the deal, but I can't expect them to make everyone happy there job is to run an airline. They were very cordial and whenever our people needed something, they responded back within minutes, it was nice.
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski View Post
haah yeah, like I said I didn't like the deal, but I can't expect them to make everyone happy there job is to run an airline. They were very cordial and whenever our people needed something, they responded back within minutes, it was nice.
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this clearly shows you lack of understanding of the term "kool-aid",
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