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Old 05-30-2011, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Ramprat View Post
Our contract is hardly industry leading..You are quoting management there, not us.
For our part of the business...regionals...i completely disagree. That doesn't mean its the pinnacle of human existance but we do have it better than most of our peers....

Im not sure ive ever heard management say that.. im looking for improvement to say the least, but do I think im going to get 200K flying an rj.. no.
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Old 05-30-2011, 05:49 PM
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For our part of the business...regionals...i completely disagree. That doesn't mean its the pinnacle of human existance but we do have it better than most of our peers....

Im not sure ive ever heard management say that.. im looking for improvement to say the least, but do I think im going to get 200K flying an rj.. no.
Sorry I meant Pinnacle's contract is hardly industry leading, but our (Pinnacle) management certainly thinks so.
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Old 05-31-2011, 04:46 AM
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I'm curious how these guys manage to do this and still get a ton of time off because it sounds a little odd to me. I am a senior fo and I'm lucky to get 13 days off in IAH. I know the contract and have been a line holder for my entire time here except for one month. Please tell how you managed to make over 10K with 22 days off as an FO. I don't mean to sound like a jerk, I'm just really curious because thats over 2.5 times what your original pay is.
The original poster of the $10K figure never said they were an FO. Based on his comment that for the month his pay was XX, without doing OE, I took that to mean this individual is probably a captain. I admit I could be wrong, but he/she wasn't clear in the post.
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Old 05-31-2011, 04:53 AM
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I know you say you've got a "stand alone 401k" going (whatever that is), but do yourself a favor and make sure to contribute at least enough to the company 401K to get the match. They are going to give you a set percentage anyway even if you contribute zero, but don't leave the other free 4-6% of matching on the table. That's a 100% return on your investment that will help reduce your taxes anyway. At that percentage and income you are not going to take a noticeable hit on your take home pay.

Make sure you DO NOT OPT OUT OF THE LONG TERM DISABILITY program either. You will be enrolled automatically when you are hired and it will cost you a few dollars each pay period. It is well worth it for the piece of mind of having an income if you lose your medical (it does happen to young pilots). If you opt out and then decide later to get it, it is an almost impossible feat to get back into the LTD program because of the physical requirements and health history they ask you.

Just asking you to consider carefully before you refuse any of the things that might reduce your paycheck even a few dollars.
YES! YES! YES! Absolutely! I injured my ankle 1 month into reserve @ XE & LTD saved my butt. Do NOT OPT OUT!!
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Old 05-31-2011, 05:03 AM
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$2100-2500???? You know you can make more money bar tending, right?????
Ok. Do YOU KNOW how much harder bar tending is from a physical standpoint? I worked the bar industry for 5 years, & it was far more demanding & exhausting then airline flying ever is. And it's no career IMO. You work your butt off, & deal with too much garbage.
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Old 05-31-2011, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Ramprat View Post
Sorry I meant Pinnacle's contract is hardly industry leading, but our (Pinnacle) management certainly thinks so.
That is not suprising. What is sad is they genuinely believe that. The regional industry sucks.
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Old 05-31-2011, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29 View Post
Ok. Do YOU KNOW how much harder bar tending is from a physical standpoint? I worked the bar industry for 5 years, & it was far more demanding & exhausting then airline flying ever is. And it's no career IMO. You work your butt off, & deal with too much garbage.
I hear what you are saying, but you simply cannot compare all airline jobs to yours. Have you flown at a regional as a reserve FO in the past year or two? If so then disregard. But a reserve FO at a just about any Regional carrier right now has to work harder than anyone in the industry. Including bar tenders. That side of the job is the pitts. And with little attrition even at regionals, it's a long period of working your butt off. Hats off to those guys.
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Old 05-31-2011, 09:47 AM
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I hear what you are saying, but you simply cannot compare all airline jobs to yours. Have you flown at a regional as a reserve FO in the past year or two? If so then disregard. But a reserve FO at a just about any Regional carrier right now has to work harder than anyone in the industry. Including bar tenders. That side of the job is the pitts. And with little attrition even at regionals, it's a long period of working your butt off. Hats off to those guys.
I got worked as an RJ CA on reserve in 2007. 95+ hours of credit every month for a year. Then I left for NWA. It was still better then any bar job I had. But we had a pretty good contract too, so maybe it wasn't as bad as other places.
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Originally Posted by jayray2 View Post
Your financial advisor is advising you to turn down free money from the company? Just out of curiosity what was the reasoning? I may be in a similar situation soon.
I understand that your situation may be different / unusual, but for others reading this and confronting the same decision, my financial advisor also called me crazy when I asked whether I should contribute to the matched retirement plan since I already had other investment strategies going. I thought he was going to crap-a-brick

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Yeah! I wish I'd met him before I trained! At least it's a family friend so we don't have to pay the bastard!
WHAT Someone working for free!!
What would his union say?

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Old 05-31-2011, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29 View Post
I got worked as an RJ CA on reserve in 2007. 95+ hours of credit every month for a year. Then I left for NWA. It was still better then any bar job I had. But we had a pretty good contract too, so maybe it wasn't as bad as other places.
Yeah, but you were making a lot more than $2100-$2500. Makes a difference.
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