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Old 12-03-2011 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by flyboyblueeyes
Dont forget we are getting a new base. Going to need peeps to staff that.
MIA and DFW?
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Old 12-03-2011 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Wingtips
MIA and DFW?
Hopefully IAD and DEN. Best of luck to everyone that applies
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Old 12-03-2011 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by FDX8891
Yeah I think those numbers are pretty large too.
I don't know if you work here or not or what you're basing your opinion on, but they've being hiring like crazy all year, over 450 by year end, and have hardly put a dent in the understaffing that our former management caused.

That, and the fact that people are leaving (they had expected even more but well over 100 captains left not including all the FOs that left for Greener pastures) plus instructors recalled to training center etc.. Plus the new base that had to be staffed, plus another new base (den) next year.

I got it directly from the training management that they are trying for a MINIMUM of 300 but planning on more. The mass cancellations that we had this year CANNOT be repeated ever again! Not to mention the huge cost of 200% pay for everyone for months on end. They're also preparing for expected increase in attrition.

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Old 12-03-2011 | 06:48 AM
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I have a feeling that those who are saying that all this talk of mass hiring next year is false, are from the ASA side who are yet to experience the total mess that has come about on several occasions this year due to a chronic shortage of crews. I have it on good authority that we are aiming for 300 upgrades and 600 new hires next year, it's just a case of whether the training center can handle those volumes. A DEN base is no longer a case of 'if' but 'when', and the current IAD base on the ASA side may well expand to include the current ERJ operation that is in place and is currently staffed by ORD crews.

This doesn't even take into account the current rumours of something going on with Delta regarding flow through or preferential hiring. I was talking to a guy just the other week who was on his way down to IAH for training. At his interview he had done additional Delta tests and was told that this was necessary due to 'the new flow through program'.
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Old 12-03-2011 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 3stripes
The 300-600 number is correct for the former XJT side, we just don't know which end of the scale it's going to be at yet. We need to upgrade a large number of FOs next year in order to staff ourselves properly. The projected number of upgrades is currently around 300. This comes straight from our head of pilot recruitment. I wouldn't be too surprised to see an addition number of guys coming from the former ASA side in addition to those who were on furlough from XJT.
Any "head of pilot recruitment" will say mass hiring, growth, new airframes, etc. That's what they get paid to do and say.
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Old 12-03-2011 | 10:58 AM
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gentleman, question for those of u already on the line now... how does pay work during training... do u get the reserve gurantee of 75 hrs @23.05/hr only, or do u also get ur per diem? thanx
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Old 12-03-2011 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ryanduveneck
gentleman, question for those of u already on the line now... how does pay work during training... do u get the reserve gurantee of 75 hrs @23.05/hr only, or do u also get ur per diem? thanx
On the ERJ side of the house, it's a one-time per diem check of about $1400-1500. No guarantee until you pass your initial PC.
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Old 12-03-2011 | 12:55 PM
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What interview dates are people being called for now? What are the closest class dates people are getting?

Also, a poster mentioned lots of FOs have left XJT for greener pastures... if anyone doesn't mind sharing, what are these "greener pastures", for those who know some of these FOs?
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Old 12-03-2011 | 01:07 PM
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What interview dates are people being called for now? What are the closest class dates people are getting?

Also, a poster mentioned lots of FOs have left XJT for greener pastures... if anyone doesn't mind sharing, what are these "greener pastures", for those who know some of these FOs?
Atlas, jetblue, charter ops, ... 5 legs a day, bad pay, and poor treatment make most people reconsider any regional around the two yr mark. If you stay past two then your just a glutton for punishment. I have been here 5 + and still can't figure out why.
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Old 12-03-2011 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by newarkblows
Atlas, jetblue, charter ops, ... 5 legs a day, bad pay, and poor treatment make most people reconsider any regional around the two yr mark. If you stay past two then your just a glutton for punishment. I have been here 5 + and still can't figure out why.
And they say XJT is one of the better regionals..

I'm currently at a complete bottom of the barrel regional, not even close to upgrade (if the company was to even survive that long) without many options, and finally in a position where I can make a change, so starting to look around. Want to be close to home so I can drive. Not willing to commute so NY area based "airlines" are the flavor of the day, and I believe EWR is the junior XJT base.

P.S - Jetblue or Atlas has been taking FOs from XJT? Without TPIC?
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