Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Retired Airlines > ExpressJet
SkyWest & ExpressJet Pilot Poll >

SkyWest & ExpressJet Pilot Poll

Search

Notices
ExpressJet Regional Airline
View Poll Results: SkyWest INC Representation
One List, In-House Union
90
53.89%
One List, ALPA
34
20.36%
One List, No Union
10
5.99%
Status Quo (Two Lists, Two Contracts)
33
19.76%
Voters: 167. You may not vote on this poll

SkyWest & ExpressJet Pilot Poll

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-24-2012 | 01:48 PM
  #31  
SuperPilotJesse's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 836
Likes: 0
From: EX - OHJFKCRJFO
Default

Nope. Based in DTW. Don't get to go to any of those cities... And I haven't had a MSP overnight in a LONG time.
Reply
Old 01-24-2012 | 03:54 PM
  #32  
JoeMerchant's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 822
Likes: 0
From: CRJ200 Capt.
Default

Originally Posted by unit monster
Hi GoAround -

Why have you not responded to my PM from a few weeks ago? Or responded within a thread after I posed the question twice.

"Where was it that you witnessed the ASA MEC walk out of some kind of joint meeting?"
I don't know where goaround got his information, but I have had it confirmed by two separate members of the ASA MEC...It got quite ugly....

This isn't unusual really...The CAL and UAL MECs are starting to air their dirty laundry in public...How about USAIR/AWA or AirTran/SWA?

Why do you find it surprising? or Why are you trying to make it go away?
Reply
Old 01-24-2012 | 03:57 PM
  #33  
JustAMushroom's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 611
Likes: 0
From: Capt
Default

Originally Posted by goaround2000
Really? You're going to base your decision to improve your life on anonymous posts? You guys are really institutionalized. Consider this:

Because you don't have a legal bargaining entity representing you or a contract, you guys have subpar medical benefits, no legal recourse on pay or work rule violations, no punitive protection from incidents or accidents (only certificate), forget the list, get with the times first, get a union any union. We talk when you guys get your house in order.
You must be a new hire.. Or you're one of those spiky hair entitled sky gods, or both. You know very little, yet you speak as if you do. Like someone posted earlier, you don't know what you don't know.

It seems to me, and most other observers of this business, that your house was the one that was not in order and it was the company you mock that has wiped up your mess. Instead of being thankful, you bite the hand that helps you. XJT was not going to be around much longer and no serious person can say otherwise with a strait face.

When there is a payroll conflict at SW, most of the guys pick up the phone and talk with payroll. Simple. Efficient. If you can't reach an agreement, a form is filled out and the reps take it to the next step to get resolution.

Now I'm not pretending there aren't issues at SW, particularly in the disciplining arena. But, there are dozens and dozens of policies that have been negotiated quickly and efficiently to the mutual benefit of both the company and the pilots. .

To the original question, one list, one independent union, limited fences for a year or so.
Reply
Old 01-24-2012 | 06:47 PM
  #34  
unit monster's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 259
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
I don't know where goaround got his information, but I have had it confirmed by two separate members of the ASA MEC...It got quite ugly....

This isn't unusual really...The CAL and UAL MECs are starting to air their dirty laundry in public...How about USAIR/AWA or AirTran/SWA?

Why do you find it surprising? or Why are you trying to make it go away?
I wouldn't find this surprising by any means and I have no reason to care if it goes away.

GoAround threw that little tidbit out there and then chose not to address it. I questioned his credibility because he chose to ignore my requests for details multiple times.

Unfortunately I feel like I'm on my own side in all of this, which isn't good for any of us.
Reply
Old 01-24-2012 | 11:23 PM
  #35  
Banned
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,134
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by rickair7777
That's fairly inflammatory. This kind of discussion is one of the reasons it's so hard to GET a union at SKW...it alienates people.
Pot, meet kettle. When you posted this in another thread;

Originally Posted by rickair7777
PBS is coming whether you like it or not. Instead of thumping your chest like a monkey about it, better start thinking how to preserve an equivalent amount of vacation with PBS.
Not only was it inflammatory, it was flat out ignorant.

When you do that, it makes it hard to see things the way SKW people do and kind of alienates people
Reply
Old 01-25-2012 | 07:16 PM
  #36  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,035
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by xjtguy
Pot, meet kettle. When you posted this in another thread;



Not only was it inflammatory, it was flat out ignorant.

When you do that, it makes it hard to see things the way SKW people do and kind of alienates people





Don't assume one junior guy represents every crewmember in this company!
Reply
Old 01-26-2012 | 03:25 PM
  #37  
CW McCall's Avatar
On Reserve
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
From: SkyWest CRJ FO
Default

Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
One list. If we have a union, it needs to be independent. Couldn't care less about the fences either way.
I care about fences. I chose to work at SkyWest because I wanted to live out west. I have no interest in "one list" if there is no provision for domicile protection. Last thing I want is sell my house and move.
Reply
Old 01-26-2012 | 10:58 PM
  #38  
Banned
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,934
Likes: 0
From: EMB 145 CPT
Default

If you want one list, then the ASA/XJT will have to make the legal case to the NMB. Otherwise, the only other way is for Skywest pilots to unionize. Then there might be a possibility. Until then, its moot since JA seems to always use the "my pilots don't want a union" card.

By the way, not having fences does NOT mean that you will be displaced. There has to be a vacancy for a pilot to bid into any aircraft, base, and seat. That is your base (and aircraft and seat) protection. You cannot be forced out of your base, aircraft, or seat. People need to educate themselves a little before saying things that are not true.
Reply
Old 01-27-2012 | 02:31 AM
  #39  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 420
Likes: 0
Default

Im gona move to Utah and make beer and sell it to you guys. Hey, do you guys drink beer?

This is a waste of time this thread just like me trying to sell you guys beer.

You guy need to forget SW and focus on our contract.
Reply
Old 01-27-2012 | 05:19 AM
  #40  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 137
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by JustAMushroom
It seems to me, and most other observers of this business, that your house was the one that was not in order and it was the company you mock that has wiped up your mess. Instead of being thankful, you bite the hand that helps you. XJT was not going to be around much longer and no serious person can say otherwise with a strait face.
Exactly...
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
JetJock16
Regional
278
03-10-2017 02:03 PM
FLW2003
Cargo
44
02-24-2011 10:08 PM
Sniper
Aviation Law
13
11-15-2009 08:16 PM
forgot to bid
Major
485
04-03-2009 07:34 PM
JoeyMeatballs
Regional
35
01-25-2007 04:26 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices