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FDX8891 04-30-2012 10:40 AM
Does anybody have any inside scoop on what they plan to do with us FO's? CT's latest message and every other company e-mail on the subject does a whole lot of of talking but not much of saying anything.

For those who don't have the 1500 hours by Aug. 2013 - Will they be let go by the company?

Will the company mandate flying for those who don't meet the time requirements so that they can meet them by Aug. 2013?

Will there be some sort of grandfather clause?

Anybody with any inside scoop whatsoever, please divulge.

JustAnotherPLT 04-30-2012 11:14 AM
The company is more than welcome to take my trips for "training purposes" while I still get paid for them!:D

Red97Vette 04-30-2012 11:19 AM
Originally Posted by Seatownflyer (Post 1178928)
Check your shoulders. 4 stripes? no? Don't log it. Or, feel free so those of us who don't play such shenanigans can have a better shot at moving on.
I agree.

Unless the captain dies in the cockpit, i wouldn't log it.

FlyJSH 04-30-2012 11:43 AM
Originally Posted by Wingtips (Post 1178876)
Now if you are ATP/Typed in airplane, and the captain takes a 30 minute poop, is that PIC time???? Oh man does that open Pandora's box!
Do you really think that 0.5 hours of PIC mixed in with a couple years of SIC is what will put you ate the front of the line at the majors?

I say, "Log it!" Let 'em know at the interview just who you are! ;)

Bellanca 04-30-2012 12:05 PM
Originally Posted by afterburn81 (Post 1178865)
Kind of a double edged sword for the company. Added expenses in advanced training, along with giving a F.O.s a more marketable resume to move on easier. A lot of majors and legacies want to see an ATP and type. This will add a new dynamic to the hiring criteria given that most everyone will have one.

I'm sure they will come out with some kind of advanced ATP for a hiring requirement one day:rolleyes:
Once everyone is required to hold an ATP and a type it will all come back to who has the turbine PIC and TT.

skyxbomb 04-30-2012 12:40 PM
I could always order a 4 stripe epaulette. I'll put it on while capt is taking a long poop :) seems easier than waiting for capt to die. And if he/she does die, do you declare right away? Or wait to the destination so you can log that extra 0.5 PIC??

stoki 04-30-2012 12:57 PM
Originally Posted by skyxbomb (Post 1179069)
I could always order a 4 stripe epaulette. I'll put it on while capt is taking a long poop :) seems easier than waiting for capt to die. And if he/she does die, do you declare right away? Or wait to the destination so you can log that extra 0.5 PIC??
I think there needs to be someone on board qualified to pronounce them dead, in order to continue to the destination, of course being the destination is at a reasonable distance, other wise I would imagine a sooner diversion would be the reasonable course of action. But either way surely there is no rush to get there since he is already dead, so you can pull back the power and slow, to give yourself extra time to manage the above average workload ;)

HighSpeedTaxi5 04-30-2012 01:19 PM
Logging PIC
 
Hey I would like those with 3 stripers who believe in their crazy mind that they can Log PIC period. My advise to you is to continue believing you can log it. I need you to help me, help you remove yourself from the pool of applicants when the majors start to hire. Thanks it will be much appreciated.

CRJDriver 04-30-2012 02:57 PM
If you're not the one sining for the plane, then don't log it as PIC!

G5inmind 04-30-2012 03:30 PM
Logging it.


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