RamenNoodles

Most of the SkyWest agreement contains provisions that say "will not be less than ASA/XJT JCBA." They will most likely be on par with us whenever this or the next TA is ratified.

I think that is part of the reason for this concessionary TA: we are negotiating for not two pilot groups, but all 6000+ pilots under the SkyWest INC umbrella. The more concessions are extracted from us, the more they can cram down the SkyWest pilots' throats.

JoeMerchant

How did you get that out of what I was asking Ellen? She said labor costs are only a small portion of the expenses. I went to the 10Q and showed how that isn't true and simply asked her how she came to that conclusion. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion...but not their own facts.

Why would I want to work for free? There is a huge difference between this TA and "working for free"....but then you know that....

afterburn81

I'm not fully aware of how all of this stuff works. Does this mean if we vote it down it we are only delaying the inevitable? Can we not just operate under the 2007 contract forever? Or is this thing we call "freedom" just a myth?

todd1200

If we vote it down the negotiators from both sides will just go back to the table and try again. They used a mediator to come up with the TA so it makes sense that they would need a mediator to make changes in the event that it doesn't pass.

Nevets

Yes, it takes a lot more leverage to negotiate gains in 401k matching and health benefits when you have 3000 more pilots that will cost the company even more.

Anyway, I'm just relaying information given to me at the XJT MEC meeting. This TA is more expensive than Skywest pilots pay and work rules.

somertime32

Bye bye GDOs....hello no vote!

BassFishr

Wait.... No GDO's....At all??

afterburn81

Where do you see that?

MaxPowerSet

No, we still get GDO's but only one block of them in most cases and you have to ask for that one set of GDO's, "subject to scheduling approval". That last phrase is another reason I'm voting no, they think we're too stupid to realize that phrase is basically the same as "at the company's discretion", something most of us have said was a non-starter.

EVpilot

In 25.D.2.g. Your first largest group of days off will be immovable. The rest are soft days. Also gone are the restrictions and protections we currently have. Current contract requires that days off are move only when they need to increase coverage in the bucket. It is done first to the call me first pilots then in inverse seniority order. This forces CS to run a draft list before moving days off. This is a pain in the butt for them so they tend not to do it as often as they otherwise might. They also have to give you an RDO with two choices and it must be contiguous to another off day unless no more days are available in the month in which case you get paid for it or get an additional GDO in the next month.

In the ta, only one group of days off is inviolate except when you do not have any groups of three or more in which case you can have two groups of two. We are losing two GDOs. The replacement day off will be chosen by the pilot from a list provided by CS. The day off will be replaced within 30 days. By the way, there is no language on how many days have to be on the list we will have to choose from.

So there go your GDOs. I could go on and on. The reserve section sucks. That alone is enough for me to vote no!