Expressjet 2013/2014 Contract
11-20-2013, 02:44 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by IBPilot
ding ding ding.....they did but since Matchpoint worked there he can't blame himself, it's always the other airline's fault.
Sad, you guys have some anger issues, you need some help before it ruins your lives...
Originally Posted by Bartok
If I was you........I'd vote no.
Now back on topic, did you guys at XJT keep your vacation (L-XJT) rules?
11-20-2013, 02:50 PM
#22
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Originally Posted by MatchPoint
Worked where? Comair? Damn you guys are stretching or just Delusional. I never worked for Comair, I work for SkyWest. Do you guys know who OO is, hell you probably have no clue what "add in" means. lol You guys are the reason why people hate coming on these boards; you bicker, attack and fight like a bunch of little school girls.
Sad, you guys have some anger issues, you need some help before it ruins your lives...
Back on topic, did you guys at XJT keep your vacation (L-XJT) rules?
Sad, you guys have some anger issues, you need some help before it ruins your lives...
Back on topic, did you guys at XJT keep your vacation (L-XJT) rules?
Because he has to rely on everyone else's vote.
11-20-2013, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MatchPoint
No my friend,
Exhibit A was Pinnacle who drove a huge dagger into the heart of our industry.
Exhibit B is PSA who just followed suit and pushed it in deeper.
Now that they've set the precedence regional pilots everywhere are under attack to join in on what Pinnacle and PSA started. Because of them the best we can now hope for is status quo……..
Exhibit A was Pinnacle who drove a huge dagger into the heart of our industry.
Exhibit B is PSA who just followed suit and pushed it in deeper.
Now that they've set the precedence regional pilots everywhere are under attack to join in on what Pinnacle and PSA started. Because of them the best we can now hope for is status quo……..
Originally Posted by MatchPoint
Worked where? Comair? Damn you guys are stretching or just Delusional. I never worked for Comair, I work for SkyWest. Do you guys know who OO is, hell you probably have no clue what "add in" means. lol You guys are the reason why people hate coming on these boards; you bicker, attack and fight like a bunch of little school girls.
Sad, you guys have some anger issues, you need some help before it ruins your lives...
I do not work for XJT but I have a few friends over there and they don't scare easily.
Now back on topic, did you guys at XJT keep your vacation (L-XJT) rules?
Sad, you guys have some anger issues, you need some help before it ruins your lives...
I do not work for XJT but I have a few friends over there and they don't scare easily.
Now back on topic, did you guys at XJT keep your vacation (L-XJT) rules?
My bad, I know what OO is, i thought you worked (formerly obviously) for Comair. My Mistake. But don't preach to us about bickering and attacking when you did the same thing!!!!
11-20-2013, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by tom14cat14
Correct me if I am wrong I thought Comair took pay cuts trying to save their airline.
We (Comair pilots) never got a chance to vote to "save" our jobs. Delta just announced that we are going to shut you down in 63 days; Good Luck!!
11-20-2013, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by IBPilot
My bad, I know what OO is, i thought you worked (formerly obviously) for Comair. My Mistake. But don't preach to us about bickering and attacking when you did the same thing!!!!
I'm not bickering or attacking anyone, it’s what you presume given that the written work is one dimensional. I make comments in general and people then attack. It matters not, the truth hurts but people here love to get personal when all I want to talk about is business.
11-20-2013, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Geardownflaps30
The cuts were during the giant Delta bankruptcy. The cuts came under the guise of the bankruptcy proceedings but were not nearly as draconian as either Pinnacle's or PSA's agreements. Of course Pinnacle's were under the guise of a bankruptcy too, although the Comair pilots voted the first offering in bankruptcy down unlike the Pinnacle pilots that accepted theirs. PSA pilots were just clueless doing what they did. There was no bankruptcy.
We (Comair pilots) never got a chance to vote to "save" our jobs. Delta just announced that we are going to shut you down in 63 days. Good Luck!!
We (Comair pilots) never got a chance to vote to "save" our jobs. Delta just announced that we are going to shut you down in 63 days. Good Luck!!
It wasn't until Delta stepped in and started doing all of managements "negotiations", and point blank said this is our final offer, take it or die.
It worked.
Still better than anyone else that accepts concessions "because Pinnacle did it".
That would suck.
11-20-2013, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bartok
Asks the pilot with no vote.
Because he has to rely on everyone else's vote.
Because he has to rely on everyone else's vote.
9E, PSA, RAH, Compass, Mesa, AE, etc. are our competitors. Just like in every other industry in the world not everyone can succeed, that’s a liberal BS snowflake view. You probably thing every kid deserves a trophy for showing up.
Man you guys sure can derail a thread.
Last edited by MatchPoint; 11-20-2013 at 03:31 PM.
11-20-2013, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by MatchPoint
Zing....lol...Ignorance is bliss. We've voted on every agreement we've had and voted several down just to renegotiate for better pay and rules, but then again many on here don't care about facts. They'd rather post hearsay, rumors and conspiracies. Posters such as yourself like to talk about us riding coat tails but there are policies here which we've had for years that most regionals either don't have or received over the past couple years. We worry about our own ship because it's who we work for and yes what other do affects us but the majority of the time it's negatively. Regardless we deal because that their decision.
Regardless, 9E, PSA, RAH, Compass, Mesa, AE, etc. are my competitors. Just like in every other industry in the world not everyone can succeed, that’s a liberal BS snowflake view. You probably thing every kid deserves a trophy for showing up.
Man you guys sure can derail a thread.
Regardless, 9E, PSA, RAH, Compass, Mesa, AE, etc. are my competitors. Just like in every other industry in the world not everyone can succeed, that’s a liberal BS snowflake view. You probably thing every kid deserves a trophy for showing up.
Man you guys sure can derail a thread.
Must be nice.
And this "derail" wasn't started by us, it was everyone else telling us how easy it is to vote "no". (for the sake of the industry)
11-20-2013, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Bartok
Lol, ok, so then Skywest will allow you to vote on your next concessionary contract.
Must be nice.
And this "derail" wasn't started by us, it was everyone else telling us how easy it is to vote "no". (for the sake of the industry)
Must be nice.
And this "derail" wasn't started by us, it was everyone else telling us how easy it is to vote "no". (for the sake of the industry)
You work for XJT right? Go back and read all my postings, ever, and you won't come across a single posting where I advised anyone to vote no or yes. That's your decision so you do what you feel is best for you and your company and forget about everyone else. People will give their opinions but who cares, I don't. And yes I give opinions as well but I will never bash you or any other pilot personally because I'm not in your shoes or work for your company. I will however talk about its effect on us but don't take it personal; I'm just talking from a business stand point.
11-20-2013, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MatchPoint
Damn our "next." When was our first? hah Still making things up are we?
You work for XJT right? Go back and read all my postings, ever, and you won't come across a single posting where I advised anyone to vote no or yes. That's your decision so you do what you feel is best for you and your company and forget about everyone else. People will give their opinions but who cares, I don't. And yes I give opinions as well but I will never bash you or any other pilot personally because I'm not in your shoes or work for your company. I will however talk about its effect on us but don't take it personal; I'm just talking from a business stand point.
You work for XJT right? Go back and read all my postings, ever, and you won't come across a single posting where I advised anyone to vote no or yes. That's your decision so you do what you feel is best for you and your company and forget about everyone else. People will give their opinions but who cares, I don't. And yes I give opinions as well but I will never bash you or any other pilot personally because I'm not in your shoes or work for your company. I will however talk about its effect on us but don't take it personal; I'm just talking from a business stand point.
just for clarification.
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