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Originally Posted by Is offline (Post 2262943)

Hahahahaha. Screwed it up by keeping them out of bankruptcy? How was that branded flying going?

I'd have rather faced bankruptcy than this slow death by a thousand cuts. Branded was actually doing fine, and would have been profitable ahead of schedule.

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Originally Posted by AboveMins (Post 2262973)

I'd have rather faced bankruptcy than this slow death by a thousand cuts. Branded was actually doing fine, and would have been profitable ahead of schedule.

The branded flying lost millions, and how long has it been since a profit was made? 2003..2004?

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Originally Posted by idlethrust (Post 2262077)

Why is XJT getting rid of the 200's and Endeavor is planning on an Atlanta base with....Wait for it.............................Crj200's.

The only place I hear about Endeavor opening a base in ATL is from XJT guys. Where are you getting this from? I've grilled the Endeavor guys and a number of them swear there is nothing in the pipeline for a base in ATL. I only ask because I live just outside of Atlanta and I'm in the process of filling out applications. I'd love to have an Atlanta Domacile but unfortunately XJT doesn't look like a viable option and all of Endeavor's other bases are horrible. I'm just tying to figure out if there is anyway to guess the chance of regional moving into ATL.

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Originally Posted by FlightDirector (Post 2262984)

I was in a very similar position. Elected to apply, interview, get hired, and start at EDV. Haven't regretted one sliver of my decision. I will be commuting from a tough western market where seats are tight. PM me if you want to learn a little more about the process. Everyone I've been in contact with from corporate has said 2017 will be a great year...what that means at this point, who knows. It's been fun so far!

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Originally Posted by Southern Fried (Post 2262438)

From my perspective (15+ year captain) this is just more restructuring which is typical of Delta. I think the Delta side could see more dual class a/c. If you want to live in a Delta base as a regional pilot, plan on many changes in fleet count and base size.
As for the ERJ side, only the top level execs of Skywest/Expressjet know what the long range plan is. It will be reduced to around 100 a/c by the end of 2017, with expected further reductions in 2018. No current talk of dual class a/c for the ERJ side. Pretty gloomy picture for both sides to be honest.
One other factor to consider: the Expressjet pilots will be entering negotiations for another try at a new contract in Oct 2017. Over the next year you will hear alot of doom and gloom and expectation management from our company leadership teams (Skywest and Expressjet). Every message from our leadership has some sort of expectation management in it. Don't expect much if any good news over the next year.

As an Endeavor guy (that started out rooming with Comair guys when I was first hired), I know your pain. Best bet is if you have even a few years left before retirement, get out early, don't be the junior Comair guys that rode that into the ground. All signs on this side have pointed to a short term take over of ATL 200 flying as SkyWest has no interest in continuing the 50 seat product anywhere. We are being told here that our 50 seaters are short term... likely gone by the end of 2018 for what it's worth.

So sad to see this place go down. I hate to say it but the guys with the doom and gloom were right all along. Sometimes the grumpy old timers have a point and guys are too stubborned to listen. Leaving and starting over is never easy but now it's almost like nobody has a choice.

RIP ASA.

with all the regional hiring going on, I have maybe seen XJT advertise for hiring like once maybe twice. Just on that alone you can see that SkyWest is winding it down for whatever reason. Maybe it will be to staff their own airline later. on the United side, openly admitting to that side of business staying in the red is also particularly gloomy. I would imagine that by mid 2018, xjt will be no more, and that the united side of things will be flown by you as a consolidated member of SkyWest. So, if you're there at xjt, especially as an FO, do not settle for anymore regional flying. I hope you move on to bigger carriers. Settle not, you're scoped out on paying dues.

SKYW is up 7% today. That shows a lot about what xjt is/was doing to their earnings.

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Originally Posted by Is offline (Post 2262983)

The branded flying lost millions, and how long has it been since a profit was made? 2003..2004?

Branded wasn't even around in 03 and 04. I believe that the quarter before we shut it down, Branded broke even. It was projected to lose money at first, as any airline does when they start up, but was well ahead of the curve to maintaining sustainability.

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Originally Posted by Treehorn (Post 2263297)

SKYW is up 7% today. That shows a lot about what xjt is/was doing to their earnings.

It shows how they were able to spin a story. Contract airlines operate airplanes for hire. They announced that they won't be operating 40 airplanes for hire, and will receive 90 million. They did not announce how much revenue they will lose by not operating 40 airplanes.
It also tells me the lift will go to Endeavor not SKW since that would have been in the announcement.