LuckyDucky7

Yeah that graphic is misleading. I have no clue why it shows that. I contacted MAC and they need IFR 135 mins (1200TT)

FXLAX

I think they can put a pilot with a wet commercial pilot certificate as SIC in the ATR until they have 500 hours. And then as a VFR PIC in the caravan until they have the 135 IFR PIC mins. Unless they have some kind of exemption?

Nightflyer

FedEx has an exemption for everything...

Precontact

http://https://aircargoworld.com/all...am-for-pilots/
Ameriflight, UPS Airlines launch joint training program for pilots

In response to a looming pilot shortage in the airfreight industry, Ameriflight and UPS Airlines have launched the UPS/Ameriflight Gateway Program to get pilots the hours and skills required to operate UPS Airline’s larger aircraft.

Two trainees are already in the program, and Ameriflight plans to add two more in July. Further ahead, Ameriflight hopes to scale up the program as well.

The collaboration offers outlined paths for UPS Airlines’ Intern Program participants to gain Part 135 flying experience at Ameriflight, with the ultimate goal of proceeding to UPS Airlines, a Part 121-certificated air carrier.

The program benefits from a waiver from the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration that allows Ameriflight pilots to operate as captains after 1,000 flight hours, with certain restrictions and increased oversight.

The program launches in a market where a pilot shortage is already forcing regional passenger carriers and feeder freight operators to cut routes and limit expansion.

In addition to mentoring the pilots-in-training, the program allows the students to participate in UPS programs. The program also qualifies graduates for employment with Ameriflight and UPS Airlines, upon completion of outlined experience and training requirements.

Ameriflight chief operating officer Bill Poerstel said that the joint agreement would allow Ameriflight to “turn UPS interns into Ameriflight pilots, ultimately helping to support UPS for years to come.”

“Promoting pilot careers is important for the long-term health of the aviation industry,” said Capt. Roger Quinn, UPS Airlines’ director of training.” This program is a unique strategy to help ensure highly skilled pilot staffing into the future.”

100LL

The ATR is a part 121 operation no different then the regionals except it’s not a jet. No reason ATR pilots can’t transition into a 757 for FedEx. I’ve known a couple guys make the transition from Empire to southwest and Alaska, both pilot’s end goal and not just a stepping stone.

FlyBoyd

....except safety vests.

LuckyDucky7

I don’t think they can based on their operating certificate. The ATRs go 121 and require the ATP to sit right seat just like all the other 121s. They only do IFR 135 as well I’m pretty sure. That’s where the confusion comes from with the graphic. I mean even a recruiter made it sound like 1200TT was the minimum, so who knows what the picture is about.

tonsterboy5

An interview isn’t worthless, what makes it worthless is having to wait 3 years for it. At least with United’s CPP you interview a lot sooner and know your status early on and adjust long term plans if needed.

John Carr

UAL's CPP interview isn't worthless, but it hasn't proven to be that great of a deal either. Stil have to get through the HPI before even getting to interview.

It was put long ago, it's nothing more than a "chance, at a chance, at a chance.....". It's really proven NOTHING MORE than a recruiting and staffing tool at their regional feeders.

FXLAX

That makes sense. Although I’m sure nothing significant stops them from operating the caravans with VFR only captains until they have 135 IFR PIC or ATP minimums and train in the ATR.