Connect and get the inside scoop on Airline Companies

Welcome to Airline Pilot Forums - Connect and get the inside scoop on Airline Companies

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ. Join our community today and start interacting with existing members. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free.


User Tag List

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 04-03-2018, 01:38 PM   #21  
On Reserve
Thread Starter
 
LuckyDucky7's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 14
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by willfly4food90 View Post
So their graphic looks like they will take people on the Caravan at 250. Anyone know how this will be possible? The way I understand it is they operate single pilot.
Yeah that graphic is misleading. I have no clue why it shows that. I contacted MAC and they need IFR 135 mins (1200TT)
LuckyDucky7 is offline  
Old 04-03-2018, 04:53 PM   #22  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2017
Posts: 244
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LuckyDucky7 View Post
Yeah that graphic is misleading. I have no clue why it shows that. I contacted MAC and they need IFR 135 mins (1200TT)

I think they can put a pilot with a wet commercial pilot certificate as SIC in the ATR until they have 500 hours. And then as a VFR PIC in the caravan until they have the 135 IFR PIC mins. Unless they have some kind of exemption?
FXLAX is offline  
Old 04-03-2018, 05:20 PM   #23  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: Crewmember
Posts: 747
Default

FedEx has an exemption for everything...
Nightflyer is offline  
Old 04-03-2018, 05:51 PM   #24  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: May 2006
Posts: 751
Default UPS has something similar

http://https://aircargoworld.com/all...am-for-pilots/
Ameriflight, UPS Airlines launch joint training program for pilots

In response to a looming pilot shortage in the airfreight industry, Ameriflight and UPS Airlines have launched the UPS/Ameriflight Gateway Program to get pilots the hours and skills required to operate UPS Airlineís larger aircraft.

Two trainees are already in the program, and Ameriflight plans to add two more in July. Further ahead, Ameriflight hopes to scale up the program as well.

The collaboration offers outlined paths for UPS Airlinesí Intern Program participants to gain Part 135 flying experience at Ameriflight, with the ultimate goal of proceeding to UPS Airlines, a Part 121-certificated air carrier.

The program benefits from a waiver from the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration that allows Ameriflight pilots to operate as captains after 1,000 flight hours, with certain restrictions and increased oversight.

The program launches in a market where a pilot shortage is already forcing regional passenger carriers and feeder freight operators to cut routes and limit expansion.

In addition to mentoring the pilots-in-training, the program allows the students to participate in UPS programs. The program also qualifies graduates for employment with Ameriflight and UPS Airlines, upon completion of outlined experience and training requirements.

Ameriflight chief operating officer Bill Poerstel said that the joint agreement would allow Ameriflight to ďturn UPS interns into Ameriflight pilots, ultimately helping to support UPS for years to come.Ē

ďPromoting pilot careers is important for the long-term health of the aviation industry,Ē said Capt. Roger Quinn, UPS Airlinesí director of training.Ē This program is a unique strategy to help ensure highly skilled pilot staffing into the future.Ē
Precontact is offline  
Old 04-03-2018, 06:19 PM   #25  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Posts: 164
Default

The ATR is a part 121 operation no different then the regionals except itís not a jet. No reason ATR pilots canít transition into a 757 for FedEx. Iíve known a couple guys make the transition from Empire to southwest and Alaska, both pilotís end goal and not just a stepping stone.
100LL is offline  
Old 04-03-2018, 07:09 PM   #26  
Freight Puppy
 
FlyBoyd's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: FX 767 FO
Posts: 574
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightflyer View Post
FedEx has an exemption for everything...
....except safety vests.
FlyBoyd is offline  
Old 04-03-2018, 07:17 PM   #27  
On Reserve
Thread Starter
 
LuckyDucky7's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 14
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FXLAX View Post
I think they can put a pilot with a wet commercial pilot certificate as SIC in the ATR until they have 500 hours. And then as a VFR PIC in the caravan until they have the 135 IFR PIC mins. Unless they have some kind of exemption?
I donít think they can based on their operating certificate. The ATRs go 121 and require the ATP to sit right seat just like all the other 121s. They only do IFR 135 as well Iím pretty sure. Thatís where the confusion comes from with the graphic. I mean even a recruiter made it sound like 1200TT was the minimum, so who knows what the picture is about.
LuckyDucky7 is offline  
Old 04-03-2018, 07:24 PM   #28  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Aug 2016
Posts: 224
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SonicFlyer View Post
Except that a guaranteed interview is worthless.
An interview isnít worthless, what makes it worthless is having to wait 3 years for it. At least with Unitedís CPP you interview a lot sooner and know your status early on and adjust long term plans if needed.
tonsterboy5 is offline  
Old 04-03-2018, 07:40 PM   #29  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,235
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tonsterboy5 View Post
An interview isnít worthless, what makes it worthless is having to wait 3 years for it. At least with Unitedís CPP you interview a lot sooner and know your status early on and adjust long term plans if needed.
UAL's CPP interview isn't worthless, but it hasn't proven to be that great of a deal either. Stil have to get through the HPI before even getting to interview.

It was put long ago, it's nothing more than a "chance, at a chance, at a chance.....". It's really proven NOTHING MORE than a recruiting and staffing tool at their regional feeders.
John Carr is offline  
Old 04-03-2018, 09:28 PM   #30  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2017
Posts: 244
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LuckyDucky7 View Post
I donít think they can based on their operating certificate. The ATRs go 121 and require the ATP to sit right seat just like all the other 121s. They only do IFR 135 as well Iím pretty sure. Thatís where the confusion comes from with the graphic. I mean even a recruiter made it sound like 1200TT was the minimum, so who knows what the picture is about.

That makes sense. Although Iím sure nothing significant stops them from operating the caravans with VFR only captains until they have 135 IFR PIC or ATP minimums and train in the ATR.
FXLAX is offline  
 
 
 

 
Post Reply

Tags
atr, feeder, jet, pathway
 



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes


Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
All engine vs single engine departures 2StgTurbine Technical 32 10-30-2015 12:24 PM
UPS Accident - BHM Huck Safety 607 10-05-2014 05:27 AM
Runway Safety Lights USMCFLYR Safety 6 10-18-2010 07:51 AM
TACA Airbus 320 overshoots runway MDT06 Foreign 1 05-30-2008 02:21 PM
B747-400 slides off runway in India Gordon C Hangar Talk 2 07-30-2005 07:48 PM


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:23 PM.