PurpleToolBox

Did you vote yes?

We are 2.5 years in and we are still finding out how bad the current contract is. The company hosed us. And it is going to get worse.

NoHaz

Not for you to question. Let the 'smartest guys in the room' handle it over some Ruth's Chris steaks.

You just keep walking out to the jet in your vest, leave the APU off, and taxi away on your single engine....

kc10/c130

Don't forget you need to land dynamic emergency fuel + 1 lb.

Adlerdriver

I'm exercising uncharacteristic restraint here and you'll note my response contains little to no sarcasm or ridicule even though I think it's warranted. I'll simply point out we have a record number of new hires on the property across all the fleets and I think it's likely many of them visit this forum hoping to find answers to questions. Based on the questions I get asked about vacation, deviations and other high level topics, it's clear our education process is broken. So, maybe a little more detail might help someone understand the point you're trying to make.

However, I'll counter with a suggestion that vacation and a secondary can work quite well if one's goal is to get the entire month off with full pay. Someone who enjoys winter sports and is junior could choose to bid 15 days of vacation in Jan or Feb and have a high probability of getting it. Now they bid a secondary and get paid 90 hours without turning a wheel for the entire month and ski, snowmobile, whatever their butt off.

And that's a bone job how?

NoHaz

To the guy junior to him who wanted a winter vaca but all the slots were taken..

MelT

No I did not. I voted against our current CBA. I realize that the secondary line process is basically PBS, as was the old one. That is why I have never bid them for flying purposes.

FrankTheTank

If you have enough days sure.. But should you end up with rdays (which is exactly what happens if you’re junior) then you don’t get vacation leveling which you would get if you held a reserve line.. That’s the bone job I was referring to..

FedupFlex

We collectively hosed ourselves by blowing our collective wads by voting for the first real offer Management put on the table. No one to blame but ourselves!

Fdxlag2

Or we collectively hosed ourselves by flying draft and selling vacation.

FedupFlex

And now, flying extra at straight pay by protecting carry-over, make-ups, trip trades, OTP. They know too many of us get addicted to a lifestyle we can’t afford!