Widebody vs 757 Capt
06-02-2018 | 06:02 PM
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06-03-2018 | 06:58 AM
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Not to consistently average over $315,000/year and the last 7 years over $350,000. They are working overtime at straight pay. I'm just guessing here, but I bet the company would have to hire at least three more pilots for every guy that does this sort of thing (if they protected min days). I bid carryover regularly, but always protect min days off and I have NEVER come close to those numbers. Take a look at the schedules of some of the top 20 guys in the right seat.............if they allow it. Like I've said before, never trust a Captain that wears a hat when he doesn't have to, and never trust a guy that blocks his calendar.
06-03-2018 | 07:37 AM
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Not to consistently average over $315,000/year and the last 7 years over $350,000. They are working overtime at straight pay. I'm just guessing here, but I bet the company would have to hire at least three more pilots for every guy that does this sort of thing (if they protected min days). I bid carryover regularly, but always protect min days off and I have NEVER come close to those numbers. Take a look at the schedules of some of the top 20 guys in the right seat.............if they allow it. Like I've said before, never trust a Captain that wears a hat when he doesn't have to, and never trust a guy that blocks his calendar.
06-03-2018 | 07:47 AM
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Not to consistently average over $315,000/year and the last 7 years over $350,000. They are working overtime at straight pay. I'm just guessing here, but I bet the company would have to hire at least three more pilots for every guy that does this sort of thing (if they protected min days). I bid carryover regularly, but always protect min days off and I have NEVER come close to those numbers. Take a look at the schedules of some of the top 20 guys in the right seat.............if they allow it. Like I've said before, never trust a Captain that wears a hat when he doesn't have to, and never trust a guy that blocks his calendar.
06-03-2018 | 07:55 AM
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I believe the point that I was attempting to make was, in order to make the figures that were presented by globalflair a pilot is working a lot with very few days off; essentially "overtime at straight pay." I never said anything about open time...........did I? Open time is a great deal, especially for those that drop crappy trips in order to pick up sweeter ones, or bumping up their month because they were awarded a low paying line (junior), etc. Draft is not "straight" pay, volunteer is not straight pay, getting bumped for training and then picking up a trip in it's place is not really straight pay............is it? Isn't that essentially 200%? But picking up an open time trip (or to bid) to only have 6 days off in the month is working overtime at straight pay. That's all I was saying.
06-03-2018 | 09:04 AM
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It is in the contract and it is legal. We are not in negotiations and Seniority has ruled the industry for 80 years. I don’t really object to carry over other than how easy ALPA helps make it for people to get 40 extra hours a month. Take away the CIC advantage and spread the carry over around. If you want to fly 40 hours extra do it on night hubturns at straight pay.
Very confusing post - perhaps you can try to clarify. Here's why I'm confused:The company builds the pairings, including all the ones containing carryover. So, how is "ALPA" (i.e. Us) making it easy to get 40 extra hours?
Also, CIC (Carry-inConflict) has nothing to do with who gets carryover trips. Those are awarded purely based on seniority during the normal monthly bidding process.
Finally, you say you don't have a problem with someone working 40 extra hours at straight pay, but you'd rather only our domestic AM flyers do it?
06-03-2018 | 09:10 AM
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There is absolutely no reason for a pilot with 40 to 70 hours of C/O to cherry pick 46 to 76 hours out of the pot before secondaries are built and open time is released. And it does not make a difference to the company who flys the 10% of our flying we hide from the BLG pot so the only reason we keep it that way is ALPA likes it that way. It is important to the company to keep that 10% out of the normal lines and keep it being flown by regular pilots at straight time.
My point is Carry Over is the companies idea, how we divide it is ours.
My point is Carry Over is the companies idea, how we divide it is ours.
06-03-2018 | 09:31 AM
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