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Adlerdriver 03-16-2019 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by MEMA300 (Post 2783691)
https://travel.nine.com.au/2019/03/14/15/20/thomas-cook-airlines-economy-lie-flat-sleeper-seats?app=applenews

FLAT BED SEAT
A seat on a commercial deadhead carrier that when fully reclined is greater than 175 degrees.


I'd argue that "a seat" does not mean multiple seats, nor do any of those three economy seats "fully recline".

Not that we've had much luck with "the greater of". :rolleyes:

BlackKnight 03-18-2019 04:09 PM

You bet that the company will try some interpretation to book these seats to meet the lie flat clause.

At $375 for a long haul flight, they’ll be frothing at the mouth.

It’ll also be interesting to see, as there’s only 4 reservations for the bed per flight, how lightening quick the seat is purchased after the trip is awarded, contrary to the current stall-until-all-business-class-seats-are-sold.

Shenanigans!

MaydayMark 03-19-2019 10:53 AM

On a different but related subject ... should we be getting more per diem?

https://www.france24.com/en/20190319...pore-hong-kong

:eek:

MaydayMark 03-19-2019 10:58 AM

JetBlue to Europe?
 
JetBlue is talking about service to London. If they flew into STN you could connect to Ryanair and have all economy service across the pond!*?

https://runwaygirlnetwork.com/2019/0...tblues-future/


Originally Posted by MEMA300 (Post 2783691)
https://travel.nine.com.au/2019/03/14/15/20/thomas-cook-airlines-economy-lie-flat-sleeper-seats?app=applenews


Adlerdriver 03-19-2019 12:01 PM

Here's another bit of data:
Same day, two leg DH to Europe. Deviate first leg planning to meet up with scheduled second leg in DFW.
Last minute issues require a new ticket purchase for flight from DFW. I decide to do that via VIPS. When I click on orange box in deviation and deadheading section, I see a message telling me that I'm inside the 60 hour deviation window. No problem - I just want a new ticket. So, I disregard the message warning me that I'm going to deviate since I'm inside the 60-hour deadline and I'm not allowed to deviate any additional legs. I buy the ticket but also deviate the second leg I wasn't planning to check the box for. Hmmmm. Rules are rules until they're not.

I always knew we could call crew scheduling and deviate inside 60 hours but I wasn't aware that VIPS would let us do so as well. Got to DFW and did my final check-in because I have a ticket on the scheduled DH.

Bottom line - I'm now in the scenario we've been discussing for a while in this thread but not intentionally. I'm kind of itching for a flight problem now just to see what happens. Maybe I'll call crew control and ask them what they think would happen if my flight cancelled just for grins. :D

P.S. FWIW, I did call them and the random 777 scheduler in crew control I reached, Paul, told me that once I performed my final check-in at the gate in DFW, I would be considered back on the trip. IF my flight had cancelled, he would be responsible for getting me to my final destination and/or dealing with any follow-on issues resulting from the disruption.

Nightflyer 03-19-2019 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by MaydayMark (Post 2785695)
On a different but related subject ... should we be getting more per diem?

https://www.france24.com/en/20190319...pore-hong-kong

:eek:

Every time the union asks for my opinion on negotiation priorities, I say "full per diem". Before, when we could get a tax deduction for per diem not paid, I was claiming over 10,000 a year, and that was at least 6 years ago. If we got full per diem, that extra $10k, probably more now, would be money in out pockets, tax free!

So, why do we only get a nickel or dime? Because the union does not get 2% of our per diem. Simple as that.

So, when you get polled, demand full per diem, since it is tax free, the gain will be quite significant, and the company can write it off anyway.

"My" union is supposed to "speak for me", but they need to LISTEN to what I want and then follow through and they don't.

baldwin 03-19-2019 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by Adlerdriver (Post 2785740)
Here's another bit of data:
Same day, two leg DH to Europe. Deviate first leg planning to meet up with scheduled second leg in DFW.
Last minute issues require a new ticket purchase for flight from DFW. I decide to do that via VIPS. When I click on orange box in deviation and deadheading section, I see a message telling me that I'm inside the 60 hour deviation window. No problem - I just want a new ticket. So, I disregard the message warning me that I'm going to deviate since I'm inside the 60-hour deadline and I'm not allowed to deviate any additional legs. I buy the ticket but also deviate the second leg I wasn't planning to check the box for. Hmmmm. Rules are rules until they're not.

I always knew we could call crew scheduling and deviate inside 60 hours but I wasn't aware that VIPS would let us do so as well. Got to DFW and did my final check-in because I have a ticket on the scheduled DH.

Bottom line - I'm now in the scenario we've been discussing for a while in this thread but not intentionally. I'm kind of itching for a flight problem now just to see what happens. Maybe I'll call crew control and ask them what they think would happen if my flight cancelled just for grins. :D

P.S. FWIW, I did call them and the random 777 scheduler in crew control I reached, Paul, told me that once I performed my final check-in at the gate in DFW, I would be considered back on the trip. IF my flight had cancelled, he would be responsible for getting me to my final destination and/or dealing with any follow-on issues resulting from the disruption.

that’s good to hear. thx for posting

Moosefire 03-19-2019 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by MaydayMark (Post 2785698)
JetBlue is talking about service to London. If they flew into STN you could connect to Ryanair and have all economy service across the pond!*?

https://runwaygirlnetwork.com/2019/0...tblues-future/

JetBlue already has a domestic lie flat product in their premium cabin. If they’re running it on transcons I reckon it’s safe to assume they’ll run it across the Atlantic.

ARAMP1 03-28-2019 06:18 PM

Don't know if it's already been mentioned, but how about not waiting 12 hours to approve/deny an open time request.

I'd say, if it's not in the assignment window, give it 15 minutes after the first person puts in for any priority make up and send it.

PurpleToolBox 03-29-2019 05:26 AM


Originally Posted by ARAMP1 (Post 2792281)
Don't know if it's already been mentioned, but how about not waiting 12 hours to approve/deny an open time request.

...if it's not in the assignment window, give it 15 minutes after the first person puts in for any priority make up and send it.


I say get rid of the makeup banks. If you drop a trip, you drop a trip. If you are removed from a trip -- whatever the reason -- you get paid.



Any trips in Open Time get processed every three hours automatically by the computer (no human). And the trips are awarded by seniority -- the way it should be. None of this "earlier time stamp" crap.


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