I tried this and was denied. They said that it’s a maximum of $40 per leg and $80 total. Not the way it seems to read to me in the contract but CE agreed.

There's a surprise. :rolleyes: "the greater of" is tough concept. We might as well try to define the word "is". :D

I'll throw spears when warranted, but I've had some very positive experiences with CE over the last few years. Rose has been very effective and diligent helping me with some CBA section 8 related issues and a grievance.

Utter BS in my opinion. CE rolls over on way too much.

Couldn’t be more clear.

CBA 2015 Lessons learned
 

Preaching to the choir.

I was trying to title the post best I could so people would understand. Guess I failed.

Yes, it’s a company/commercial deadhead within 3 days of a trip. As I said, no-one has answered me what the hell the (in red) line of “seat selection fees are only allowed on commercial deadheads” meant on my expense report.

Ok, I"ll answer. In addition to calling a deviation ticket a "personal ticket home using the 3-day rule", it would appear you are unable to use the expense report system properly. :D

I did some experimenting with my expense report and got the same message in red that you saw. It happens when you try to associate a seat selection fee with a revenue leg instead of a deadhead leg using the pull-down selections on each expense. The system doesn't stop you from inputting that error into your report, but it does catch it when you view your report. I got the red message to display in my un-submitted report after selecting the wrong type of flight and entering that expense into my report.
So, no one denied you anything except you. Don't submit your expense report with red errors showing. The system was trying to save you from yourself. :D

No. This happened to me as well. This red message isn’t there when submitting the report. If it had, I doubt it would let you submit it as it doesn’t let you submit for any other red messages. The message is there after you’ve been denied the expense after you’ve submitted it. It confused me as well since it was associated with a dead head flight I purchased with bank money for a flight home after training. After an insite, the message went away and got the explanation that it’s $40 per leg and $80 total for seat selection fees. So a portion of the fee was being denied.

Maybe you shouldn’t be so rude when talking with people.:)

Lighten up. A little sarcasm never hurt anyone. I’m sure BK can handle it. :D

To your point. It does show up in the report before you submit it because I just did it and checked before I responded to BlackKnight. My Feb report is not yet submitted. I associated a seat selection fee with a revenue flight and clicked “submit”, entering that expense into my Feb report.
When I then click “review/submit” in the list of reports to look at Feb and scroll to that expense I incorrectly entered, it has the exact red message that BlackKnight said he had in his report. That message is there prior to submitting the report. I click “remove” on the expense, correct and re-submit it into my report. The message goes away.
The message also shows up if I associate the fee with the last revenue leg of a trip into MEM (like one would do with a ticket purchased to get home).
The only thing I can’t verify is what would happen if I submitted the report that way, because I can’t undo that.
My guess is the system does let you submit it that way because that message is showing any time the seat selection fee is associated with any portion of a trip that’s not specifically a deadhead. Why would it come up for me before I submit and no one else?
Regardless, it’s a system glitch that should be fixed because obviously not all legit seat selection fees can be associated with an actual deadhead leg. Some pilots may not even have a deadhead on their trip at all and still could submit a valid SS fee for their flight home.
Another FYI - it appears that the system auto-denies the fee if it’s associated with a segment of the trip that is outside of 3 days from the date of the seat selection fee, even if that trip segment is a deadhead. In that case, it automatically changes the expense to unauthorized before you even submit it into your report. It still lets you enter it into the report and once it’s there, there is no red message. It just shows up in a specific “unauthorized” section at the bottom of the report.

Has it occurred to you that maybe you haven’t found all the glitches in these example? But you rather use your sarcasm instead because you know everything. And to your other point, I SPECIFICALLY used a :) to indicate my sarcasm figuring you could also handle it.:)

Not everything. I learned quite a bit from this exchange.
My takeaway is if I have a SS fee from a deadhead ticket to go home at the end of a trip (or to MEM to start a trip), I have two choices (that we know of, since I may not have found all the glitches ;))
1. Find a DH leg on my trip within 3 days of my SS fee and associate it with that.
2. If no DH leg like that available, then pick the first or last trip segment, accept there’s going to be the red warning message (most likely) and put an appropriate comment in my travel report. Hopefully it gets fixed by the auditor after submitting the report and doesn’t require an Insite.

Cheers :)

OMG, Pinseeker

Perhaps you should be renamed.

Again, Quoting from the book of CBA 8.C.1.d.iv
Final deviation check-in may be accomplished if the deviating
pilot joins the Company scheduled deadhead(s) and, as a
result, he will arrive at the point of origin of the pilot’s first revenue
flight or standby period as if the pilot had not deviated.
Upon arrival at the departure gate of the scheduled deadhead
flight, the pilot shall check-in with VIPS, or CRS if VIPS is not
accessible, and indicate that he is in position for the scheduled
deadhead flight. Once this check-in has been accomplished,
the pilot shall no longer be considered as deviating,
for the purposes of subsequent delays, revisions, and all trip
services.
Example: The scheduled deadhead travel is MEM-ATL-CDG.
The pilot deviates and obtains a ticket to join the scheduled
ATL-CDG flight. Final deviation check-in may be accomplished
upon arrival at the departure gate for the CDG flight in
the ATL airport.


Yes, I voted Yes for TA2015. Yes, there ARE improvements in CBA2015. And, this one you just can't seem to acknowledge is One of them.

Can't see any other reason to attempt to Confuse the Issue.

YES, if by Proponent of the VB plan you mean.
Same Earnings Cap Traditional A plan is superior to the A plan (Something I've said many, many times)
VB Plan results are Better than our current A plan. (Where it's not, is for people who only work 70% of their Lines and Plan to work 100% at the END of their Career to get their Average Earnings Up....See Traditional Better than the year by year)

Whether I vote Yes on TA 202X is still TBD.
As I said back in 2015, the main reason I voted for TA 2015 is that I was involved in more than One discussion with people who were of the opinion that ALL Newhires should simply get a Big B plan while OUR A plan is fixed. That we have NO obligation to any future newhires.

(Another thing I have said Repeatedly is that Even our "Frozen" A plan is superior to a Big B plan)