You have got to be joking. Either that, or senior and still want it all. Punish everyone for the actions of a few on one airplane? Crazy. Pick up a trip, decide you want to swap it with someone or give it away, and you need permission to swap it....gotta give a good enough reason to management? Now that is about the worst idea I've heard in a long time.

If you're senior, just bid the trips you want. And then make friends, get a group going who help each other out, get on the Facebook swapping pages. But to try to control everyone else's life....no. You would be in a very small, senior, self focused minority.

There wouldn’t be that much EARLIER TIME STAMP if there was instant trip trading. You would only possibly get ONE of those messages at the beginning of the open time window.

As for making it seniority based, I respectfully disagree. But that’s because we are of different philosophies. Im all for seniority when it comes to bidding your line. But I would like instant trip trading because it allows the majority, that are not senior, a chance at being able to improve their QOL. It wouldn’t give junior people an advantage because anyone could partake. But it would at least give them a chance at QOL they currently can’t obtain due to their juniority.

And there is precedent for this in our contract. Our vacation bidding is not strictly seniority based. The way we do vacation bidding, it gives the junior people a chance at getting a vacation week during a time of the year that they probably wouldn’t otherwise be able to if it was done strictly by seniority.

The other end of the philosophical spectrum is to do EVERYTHING strictly by seniority. I hope we never go to that sort of system. Only the top senior people would enjoy QOL.

And why the hell should you get priority makeup just because you protect min days off with a secondary line and not a regular line? WTF is that all about?

Because now you are senior you want guys junior to you to give up a contractual provision you enjoyed when you were junior. Maybe you should just be able to take trips off a junior guy’s schedule that you want as well. You’re senior. You deserve it. That junior guy shouldn’t have anything you want. You’re senior. He should carry your bags to the jet too. You’re too senior to carry your bags. And when your flight is catered just open up both boxes and pick out whatever you want from the meals. That junior guy can have leftovers. He will be senior one day and can take what he wants then. Semper I. Always me.

No thanks. Not everybody will be senior.

His name is PurpleTOOLBOX :eek:

Well sure but how would you do that? The entire idea behind is to give the wronged person an advantage over the others. If say, he had 72CH of OTP but was never able to use it because others always got their BLAs adjudicated immediately, those hours would be worthless right? I'd like to see some sort of reasonable time to adjudicate - maybe max of 2 hours or something during certain parts of day.

Haven't heard too many complain on this - can you be specific in to what exact trips you used to fly and the ones you now fly that are part of the exceptions and what you don't like about them?

You get PNP because futures can't build you a legal line based on conflicts - so they end up giving you PNP - in some cases you could have only 50CH of trips and the rest PNP - so you need to have that priority to get you up to guarantee.

Now guys totally abuse the system now with their conflicts and PNP. That's the part that needs to be fixed. Stop the abusers and then allow PNP to be merged if desired (10CH of PNP for a 777 guy isn't too useful for example)

I certainly don’t fly them but EWR-LAX-OAK or LAX-EWR-ORD keep popping up in the 76 bid pack. A lot of DEN-IND-ONT next day ONT-IND-DEN.

I don’t know yet. But you are still thinking along the lines of the whole bank paradigm. I’m referring to a solution that allows us to do away with banks, so that we can have instant trip trading, and yet allow those “wronged” to be made whole.