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Old 07-10-2019 | 04:05 AM
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The negotiating committee chair said in a podcast that they’ve added a provision that will require the company to buy up if the VBP falls below what we would get with the A plan
So.. What did they say about Lay Flat seats? What about A380 rates? What about and hard and soft parameters, city purity, the optimizer? The list goes on..

Seriously, you can’t be than naive and trusting

It ain’t about what they say they will negotiate; it’s about the loopholes in the final language or the classic “we will fix that in the next contract”
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Old 07-10-2019 | 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by FrankTheTank
So.. What did they say about Lay Flat seats? What about A380 rates? What about and hard and soft parameters, city purity, the optimizer? The list goes on..



Seriously, you can’t be than naive and trusting



It ain’t about what they say they will negotiate; it’s about the loopholes in the final language or the classic “we will fix that in the next contract”


Go back and re-read what I wrote. Nowhere did I say anything about anything other than to specify what the negotiating chair said. But thanks for the insult.
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Old 07-10-2019 | 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by FXLAX
Go back and re-read what I wrote. Nowhere did I say anything about anything other than to specify what the negotiating chair said. But thanks for the insult.
Roger that! I did not intend it to be insulting, my bad.

Let me clarify, I believe the negotiating committe and MEC, believe in their power of negotiating. I believe the Company is smarter and the language will never be what we think it will be. And the final results will never be what we, they think it means and in turn, just gave away our “near” guarantee. I would like research into other (proven) solutions.
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Old 07-10-2019 | 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by FXLAX
The negotiating committee don’t believe their chairman said that in the podcast? Anyone can go back and listen to it if they don’t believe it.
What I meant to say is, not even the negotiating committee believe that statement from the chairman
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Old 07-10-2019 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
Might also have something to do with the fact that every month that passes means another 49-60 newbies show up that will be more likely to vote it in.
I’m a newbie, and a solid NO vote. I don’t want my A plan touched!
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Old 07-12-2019 | 09:50 AM
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From the Union:

"We are disappointed to report that FedEx management has advised us that they are unable to further evaluate the Pilot's Stabilized Pension Plan (PSPP). They cited current economic conditions. We take issue with that rationale."

There are 3 more paragraphs that you can read in the email.

We keep our A-Fund!....for now.
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Old 07-12-2019 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Rum Runner
From the Union:

"We are disappointed to report that FedEx management has advised us that they are unable to further evaluate the Pilot's Stabilized Pension Plan (PSPP). They cited current economic conditions. We take issue with that rationale."

There are 3 more paragraphs that you can read in the email.

We keep our A-Fund!....for now.
The union message sounds like everyone was onboard with this POS VBPlan SMH. These guys are delusional
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Old 07-12-2019 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Rum Runner
From the Union:

"We are disappointed to report that FedEx management has advised us that they are unable to further evaluate the Pilot's Stabilized Pension Plan (PSPP). They cited current economic conditions. We take issue with that rationale."

There are 3 more paragraphs that you can read in the email.

We keep our A-Fund!....for now.
Good.. Who would have thought the Company would be the one to save us from ourselves.
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Old 07-12-2019 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by FrankTheTank
Good.. Who would have thought the Company would be the one to save us from ourselves.


Well stated!


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Old 07-12-2019 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by FrankTheTank
Good.. Who would have thought the Company would be the one to save us from ourselves.
Yes, for sure👍
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