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Old 11-15-2018, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Hacker15e View Post
Ultimately, your question is, "will the night flying at a cargo company cause me to die younger than if I fly at a passenger carrier."

Bottom line: nobody knows.

There is no data that controls for all the other lifestyle and career factors that will tell you such a thing..
There’s data, it’s just not shared with the pilot group. and you don’t account for all the “lifestyle” choices or “career factors”. You take the life expectancy of of a fedex pilot and compare that to the general population. This gives you a statistical basis, much the same as comparing smokers to non-smokers. You don’t necessarily account for diet or career or whatever, although you can and you can narrow down the data: for instance: smokers who eat vegan and are yogis compared to non-smokers with the same habits, and on and on you go. However, the whole doesn’t change. You assume within the comparison groups basic habits offsetting one another, or “all things being equal”. Bottom line: do we as a whole die younger or not? I heard from an old union dude now dead that we on average collect 30 retirement checks, which if we get one retirement check a month is essentially living not quite three years beyond our retirement date. If this is true, we as a whole are well below average. the fact that this data has not been shared witht the pilot group leads me to believe that it’s not far off the mark. I could be wrong. Kronan?
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Old 11-15-2018, 06:59 AM
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Worry about your genes, they have more than anything to do with it. At what age did your biological ancestors in the past three generations die?

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Old 11-15-2018, 07:12 AM
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There’s data, it’s just not shared with the pilot group. and you don’t account for all the “lifestyle” choices or “career factors”. You take the life expectancy of of a fedex pilot and compare that to the general population. This gives you a statistical basis, much the same as comparing smokers to non-smokers. You don’t necessarily account for diet or career or whatever, although you can and you can narrow down the data: for instance: smokers who eat vegan and are yogis compared to non-smokers with the same habits, and on and on you go. However, the whole doesn’t change. You assume within the comparison groups basic habits offsetting one another, or “all things being equal”. Bottom line: do we as a whole die younger or not? I heard from an old union dude now dead that we on average collect 30 retirement checks, which if we get one retirement check a month is essentially living not quite three years beyond our retirement date. If this is true, we as a whole are well below average. the fact that this data has not been shared witht the pilot group leads me to believe that it’s not far off the mark. I could be wrong. Kronan?
So you're saying the average FedEx pilot lives (best case) to <68 years? I have absolutely no data to counter that claim, but if it were true I cannot imagine it wouldn't be a HUGE media story, with CDC involvement, Union focus, etc. The average US male life expectancy is 76 years.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...north-america/
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Old 11-15-2018, 08:20 AM
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When I got hired here, a UPS buddy of mine told me that "this job is tough on the body, but if you can control your diet and exercise, you've got it made."

I struggle with the diet part... I like food too much, but I do try to keep to a pretty regular exercise program. Even on short layovers after a hub-turning night, I try to get a couple of miles in when I wake up. I've found that it does help with the sleep aspect of this job and especially the recovery after a hub-turn week. What do I know, though. Maybe I'm just using up all my allotted heartbeats early.

But like they say, "you can't outrun your genes."
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Old 11-15-2018, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by LJ Driver View Post
So you're saying the average FedEx pilot lives (best case) to <68 years? I have absolutely no data to counter that claim, but if it were true I cannot imagine it wouldn't be a HUGE media story, with CDC involvement, Union focus, etc. The average US male life expectancy is 76 years.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...north-america/
Unfortunately that is what I heard that cargo pilots croak 2-3 after retirement.... thank you for making my decision....long life is priceless....
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Unfortunately that is what I heard that cargo pilots croak 2-3 after retirement.... thank you for making my decision....long life is priceless....
I plan to live forever. That’s just me though.

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There’s data, it’s just not shared with the pilot group. and you don’t account for all the “lifestyle” choices or “career factors”.
That's exactly the point: there's no comparative data that controls for the lifestyle factors (including overall health prior to flying at the airlines, exercise, smoking, genetic health problems, etc), which are probably the singularly most relevant aspects to the question actually being asked, which is, "Lifespan of FedEx pilots vs other airline pilots."

It doesn't exist, and it isn't being secretly squirreled away, hidden from pilots for some unknown sinister reason.
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