NoHaz

Yeah I was surprised toö and a call to the duty officer and grievance confirmed it is all agreed to procedures. Even the midnight call to both my cell and wife's cell was okay. They can't interrupt your rest if you are at the hotel on a layover but, a 'courtesy' call during your 1n7 to let you know you have a crew notification is apparently okay. Again, doesn't seem very r-24ish

UnusualAttitude

I also brought this up with CRS supervisor and DO. I said that although it was contractual I did not believe it met regulatory intent of 1 in 7.

They disagreed.

-UA

FlyBoyd

This bit me a few years back. It was in the last contract, too....the exact same verbiage. I agree it violates the intent.

BlueMoon

They FAA has had a one phone call policy. The company can call once during your rest period, but you aren’t obligated to answer it.

Looks like it has been cited to be in an FAA Letter to Glenn Jimenez from Rebecca MacPherson In 2011, I haven’t been able to find the letter, only citations of it in other documents or FAA letters.

FXLAX

To be honest, I rather get that courtesy call, which is legal, than to have to check VIPS around the clock.



It is legal. But I was surprised it wasn’t something negotiated in the contract to prevent this practice. This is one of the areas where 117 would be better.

BLOB

This company is not entirely made up of 30yo new hires and they are not the only interests that ALPA needs to consider. I keep hearing we need to abandon the A plan so we don’t screw them over yet the proposed VB will admittedly not improve the retirement for pilots who have already worked here 10-15 years and are nearing retirement. So let’s hose our pilots who have been here longer? I can’t say that passes the logic test.

FrankTheTank

The new hire is a red herring.. This is really about the 25+ year crowd that want more..

There are more solutions (or possible) solutions than cashing in (freezing) the A Plan..

kronan

NoHaz,
you referenced the CBA that says "provided such assignment is posted at least 24 hours prior to showtime."

How is that any different than my saying the VIPS notification has to be posted at least 24 hours prior to showtime? A VIPS notification of an assignment within 24 hours wouldn't be complying with the CBA, with one exception. You are On a trip and land in Memphis, an R24 Pilot Can be hub turned. The 24 hour notification window starts after you're released.

Same responsibility for checking for assignment on a Vacation day BTW. Say for Example you have Vacation that ends this Sunday. On Sunday you'd be responsible for checking VIPS to see if you've been assigned anything for Monday, because they won't call you.

But again, VIPS notification has to be dropped into your profile at least 24 hours prior to the showtime.

PeterGriffin

”Say for Example you have Vacation that ends this Sunday. On Sunday you'd be responsible for checking VIPS to see if you've been assigned anything for Monday, because they won't call you.”


That’s what the 48 hour buffer is for...

NoHaz

Yeah you are right. I just don't think it is in the spirit of R-24 to have a trip added to Vips while you are mid 1n7 and have it be less than 24 (although on vips 24+) when you finally check it.


Of course you get the, "we have to do it, no one is left on reserve" hmmm and who cut the r lines in half?


They are playing it very tight in the FDAs at least. Only 1 RA, 1 RB and one R24 each day. They are supplementing with MEM crew hotel standbys which brings me to another question. if they are scheduling MEM crews to sit standby in the FDA theater wouldn't those shortages be known r-days they should have put in the FDA bidpack?