Considering jumping ship
#103
True, so maybe a jump to a large PAX carrier (or LCC, mostly domestic anyway) isn’t that bad of an idea. Not like any new hire or 1-4 year starter is headed overseas anyway for the most part it seems. Granted, a slowdown in Cargo/PAX is always inevitable in some form of Pandemic, Economic, Carrier War-fare, AircraftMAX, Trade War, Recession/Depression, Merger or simply out maneuvered by another large box or body carrier.
*Heavy Cargo newbie/AMCI, Boom your in the hot zone wherever that might be on OE right out of the Gate most of the time. (Virus Outbreak)
This current event might take a few weeks, months or more to clean up like most things hopefully. Hiring and significant growth may/will boom once again (Purple, etc.) Looking back at your career when it’s all said and done will be the only true testament of what you deem as a success for whatever priorities you establish now. Priorities change, Tail Flashes Change and Management, etc. change - It’s unfortunately impressive if someone is able to maintain momentum and the same ID badge happily throughout this profession. Wish all the Best!
*Heavy Cargo newbie/AMCI, Boom your in the hot zone wherever that might be on OE right out of the Gate most of the time. (Virus Outbreak)
This current event might take a few weeks, months or more to clean up like most things hopefully. Hiring and significant growth may/will boom once again (Purple, etc.) Looking back at your career when it’s all said and done will be the only true testament of what you deem as a success for whatever priorities you establish now. Priorities change, Tail Flashes Change and Management, etc. change - It’s unfortunately impressive if someone is able to maintain momentum and the same ID badge happily throughout this profession. Wish all the Best!
#104
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 156
The virus is short term issue. Amazon is a long term problem. 1 Trillion market cap. Id leave you will be safe with retirements. Fedex pilot group has never had bad times. When it comes it will be ugly. 4500 independent contractors in good times how will it be in bad times, plus alpa does not care about 4500 pilots. Its about the 40k of pax pilots were they get their money.
#105
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Copy Copy, got riled up and forgot to leave the QUOTE in it ............. point well taken man !!! Thank you !!!
#106
The virus is short term issue. Amazon is a long term problem. 1 Trillion market cap. Id leave you will be safe with retirements. Fedex pilot group has never had bad times. When it comes it will be ugly. 4500 independent contractors in good times how will it be in bad times, plus alpa does not care about 4500 pilots. Its about the 40k of pax pilots were they get their money.
#107
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2012
Position: Two Wheeler FrontSeat
Posts: 1,162
No way dude ........... All these virus issues will be a player for years to come, the passenger crews that have to fly with all these potential infected passengers are going to pay a dear price .......... The virus issue and other weird junk out there will be a constant threat to the work environment for years to come, don't take this lightly. The passenger carriers are in extreme jeopardy events on stuff like this, they all know the risks but there is revenue that has to be made. Cargo carriers also in jeopardy no doubt. Would be real interesting to find out from the gate keepers what active and retired flight crews are dying from, the actuary information would be scary stuff for sure.
I earn my retire and more everyday I go to work. Please leave it alone, if I don’t leave to enjoy it, my survivors will. Let’s enhance it not eradicate it.
#108
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2019
Posts: 1,030
You got that right. We could contract anything out there not knowing it’s long term effect on our health and the health of our love ones.
I earn my retire and more everyday I go to work. Please leave it alone, if I don’t leave to enjoy it, my survivors will. Let’s enhance it not eradicate it.
I earn my retire and more everyday I go to work. Please leave it alone, if I don’t leave to enjoy it, my survivors will. Let’s enhance it not eradicate it.
#109
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: B200
Posts: 99
Pilots that lateral between A-List carriers amaze me.
With all the uncertainty in aviation, the crystal ball required to make a substantially better move in moments of "crisis" is a big and clairvoyant one. What makes you think you can second guess the future to that degree? Oh yeah, the fact that you have the ability to extract job offers from multiple carriers.
In the 90's, when i was flying a 207 out of St Mary's Ak, I was routinely jump seating on United and FedEx. I regularly rode on an I.D. that could have been fabricated on a printer at Kinko's....but it wasn't. FedEx guys respected my I.D. and my story, while I was treated like **** at United 50% at the time. Those experiences taught me the value of solidarity and professional respect, and I vowed never to work for United. It also cemented my vow to never apply to any passenger carrying major, because that experience was to a lesser degree repeated at others.
If you're through the pool, indoc, training and IOE at FedEx and you want to jump ship because you think that highly of your brain's ability to future-cast, then you are delusional. You now work as a pilot at a company that has not only survived multiple economic downturns, but has done so with class and style and want to trade that for the stumbling retarded black-sheep of US aviation that only exists because it is too big to fail. If so, then good luck. You'll need it, genius.
With all the uncertainty in aviation, the crystal ball required to make a substantially better move in moments of "crisis" is a big and clairvoyant one. What makes you think you can second guess the future to that degree? Oh yeah, the fact that you have the ability to extract job offers from multiple carriers.
In the 90's, when i was flying a 207 out of St Mary's Ak, I was routinely jump seating on United and FedEx. I regularly rode on an I.D. that could have been fabricated on a printer at Kinko's....but it wasn't. FedEx guys respected my I.D. and my story, while I was treated like **** at United 50% at the time. Those experiences taught me the value of solidarity and professional respect, and I vowed never to work for United. It also cemented my vow to never apply to any passenger carrying major, because that experience was to a lesser degree repeated at others.
If you're through the pool, indoc, training and IOE at FedEx and you want to jump ship because you think that highly of your brain's ability to future-cast, then you are delusional. You now work as a pilot at a company that has not only survived multiple economic downturns, but has done so with class and style and want to trade that for the stumbling retarded black-sheep of US aviation that only exists because it is too big to fail. If so, then good luck. You'll need it, genius.
#110
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2019
Posts: 447
Pilots that lateral between A-List carriers amaze me.
With all the uncertainty in aviation, the crystal ball required to make a substantially better move in moments of "crisis" is a big and clairvoyant one. What makes you think you can second guess the future to that degree? Oh yeah, the fact that you have the ability to extract job offers from multiple carriers.
In the 90's, when i was flying a 207 out of St Mary's Ak, I was routinely jump seating on United and FedEx. I regularly rode on an I.D. that could have been fabricated on a printer at Kinko's....but it wasn't. FedEx guys respected my I.D. and my story, while I was treated like **** at United 50% at the time. Those experiences taught me the value of solidarity and professional respect, and I vowed never to work for United. It also cemented my vow to never apply to any passenger carrying major, because that experience was to a lesser degree repeated at others.
If you're through the pool, indoc, training and IOE at FedEx and you want to jump ship because you think that highly of your brain's ability to future-cast, then you are delusional. You now work as a pilot at a company that has not only survived multiple economic downturns, but has done so with class and style and want to trade that for the stumbling retarded black-sheep of US aviation that only exists because it is too big to fail. If so, then good luck. You'll need it, genius.
With all the uncertainty in aviation, the crystal ball required to make a substantially better move in moments of "crisis" is a big and clairvoyant one. What makes you think you can second guess the future to that degree? Oh yeah, the fact that you have the ability to extract job offers from multiple carriers.
In the 90's, when i was flying a 207 out of St Mary's Ak, I was routinely jump seating on United and FedEx. I regularly rode on an I.D. that could have been fabricated on a printer at Kinko's....but it wasn't. FedEx guys respected my I.D. and my story, while I was treated like **** at United 50% at the time. Those experiences taught me the value of solidarity and professional respect, and I vowed never to work for United. It also cemented my vow to never apply to any passenger carrying major, because that experience was to a lesser degree repeated at others.
If you're through the pool, indoc, training and IOE at FedEx and you want to jump ship because you think that highly of your brain's ability to future-cast, then you are delusional. You now work as a pilot at a company that has not only survived multiple economic downturns, but has done so with class and style and want to trade that for the stumbling retarded black-sheep of US aviation that only exists because it is too big to fail. If so, then good luck. You'll need it, genius.
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