Considering jumping ship
01-24-2020, 04:28 PM
#61
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Posts: 923
Originally Posted by Fdxlag2
I can agree with most of this, but also in the seniority equation is Fleet Mix and Route availability. Fedex has a very high WB to NB ratio topped only by UPS with their 100% WB pay. It sure seems my options to fly non code share to Europe on AA and Delta are declining.
We are in a good place. Only “correcting” the people under you argument. Just one comment, the single pay scale at UPS was very attractive to me. Just saying...
01-24-2020, 04:46 PM
#62
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Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 936
Originally Posted by C2078
We are in a good place. Only “correcting” the people under you argument. Just one comment, the single pay scale at UPS was very attractive to me. Just saying...
01-24-2020, 06:27 PM
#63
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Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 1,622
Originally Posted by Fdxlag2
All parts of the seniority argument. I like the UPS single pay scale too. But you can make a quality of life and seniority argument for two. I love seeing guys senior to me chase the big bucks and upgrade at 100%. If you find a niche at FDX it is nice to know you can get some artificial seniority by giving up some money.
01-24-2020, 07:26 PM
#64
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Joined APC: Jun 2018
Position: 757 CA
Posts: 594
Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox
But the jokes on them. 757CA doesn't pay as much as 777FO. And most of the 757 new hires are on New Hire Junior Activation Pay (think passover pay). So it is only the 757CAs that are getting screwed.
Keep thinking that. 
01-25-2020, 07:27 AM
#67
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Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox
But the jokes on them. 757CA doesn't pay as much as 777FO. And most of the 757 new hires are on New Hire Junior Activation Pay (think passover pay). So it is only the 757CAs that are getting screwed.
Maybe I can’t read, but, for example, a 4th year guy/gal, it sure seems to me $255.73 is more than $189.22.
01-25-2020, 08:06 AM
#68
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Joined APC: Jun 2018
Position: 757 CA
Posts: 594
In order for a 777FO to out earn a 757CA, he/she must:
1) Be fairly senior in seat.
2) Stay on the road quite a bit (TAFB)
3) Credit significantly more to make up the Pay Rate difference.
A few samples from the Annual Salary Survey:
1. FedEx
Year 4/5 75 CA
Live in base and bid reserve.
Hourly: 258k
Per Diem: Spent
Nights away: 19
Block: 57.6 hrs
2. FedEx year 3-4 (757 Capt)
Live in Base
Bid Reserve when not Instructing
Pick up extra reserve and standby periods sitting at home
Pay - 320k
DC - 22,900k
Per diem - Almost none since I barely fly
Block - 61.2
24 nights away from home
3. FDX 6/7 year 757 Capt
302 block
87 landings
99 days on the road
Mid $300s all inclusive.
4. FedEx - Year 3
4 months @ 767 FO
3 months @ Training pay
5 months @ 757 CA
Total: $321k (Gross + DC)
Gross: $298k
DC: $22.9k
Per Diem: $8k
Block: 410 hours
Credit: 1,361 hours
All of these guys/gals are relatively junior. I know that we have some 777FO's clearing $400K, but those are extremely senior guys/gals and are far from the norm. Plus, if your a 777FO at 7+ years seniority you could've already held WB Captain. Too each his own, but I'd say that you'd have to be better than 50% in seat and working many more days as a 777FO to match or out earn a 757CA.
1) Be fairly senior in seat.
2) Stay on the road quite a bit (TAFB)
3) Credit significantly more to make up the Pay Rate difference.
A few samples from the Annual Salary Survey:
1. FedEx
Year 4/5 75 CA
Live in base and bid reserve.
Hourly: 258k
Per Diem: Spent
Nights away: 19
Block: 57.6 hrs
2. FedEx year 3-4 (757 Capt)
Live in Base
Bid Reserve when not Instructing
Pick up extra reserve and standby periods sitting at home
Pay - 320k
DC - 22,900k
Per diem - Almost none since I barely fly
Block - 61.2
24 nights away from home
3. FDX 6/7 year 757 Capt
302 block
87 landings
99 days on the road
Mid $300s all inclusive.
4. FedEx - Year 3
4 months @ 767 FO
3 months @ Training pay
5 months @ 757 CA
Total: $321k (Gross + DC)
Gross: $298k
DC: $22.9k
Per Diem: $8k
Block: 410 hours
Credit: 1,361 hours
All of these guys/gals are relatively junior. I know that we have some 777FO's clearing $400K, but those are extremely senior guys/gals and are far from the norm. Plus, if your a 777FO at 7+ years seniority you could've already held WB Captain. Too each his own, but I'd say that you'd have to be better than 50% in seat and working many more days as a 777FO to match or out earn a 757CA.
01-25-2020, 09:26 AM
#69
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
Position: Fetal in the hub
Posts: 410
Originally Posted by Thrust Hold
In order for a 777FO to out earn a 757CA, he/she must:
1) Be fairly senior in seat.
2) Stay on the road quite a bit (TAFB)
3) Credit significantly more to make up the Pay Rate difference.
A few samples from the Annual Salary Survey:
1. FedEx
Year 4/5 75 CA
Live in base and bid reserve.
Hourly: 258k
Per Diem: Spent
Nights away: 19
Block: 57.6 hrs
2. FedEx year 3-4 (757 Capt)
Live in Base
Bid Reserve when not Instructing
Pick up extra reserve and standby periods sitting at home
Pay - 320k
DC - 22,900k
Per diem - Almost none since I barely fly
Block - 61.2
24 nights away from home
3. FDX 6/7 year 757 Capt
302 block
87 landings
99 days on the road
Mid $300s all inclusive.
4. FedEx - Year 3
4 months @ 767 FO
3 months @ Training pay
5 months @ 757 CA
Total: $321k (Gross + DC)
Gross: $298k
DC: $22.9k
Per Diem: $8k
Block: 410 hours
Credit: 1,361 hours
All of these guys/gals are relatively junior. I know that we have some 777FO's clearing $400K, but those are extremely senior guys/gals and are far from the norm. Plus, if your a 777FO at 7+ years seniority you could've already held WB Captain. Too each his own, but I'd say that you'd have to be better than 50% in seat and working many more days as a 777FO to match or out earn a 757CA.
1) Be fairly senior in seat.
2) Stay on the road quite a bit (TAFB)
3) Credit significantly more to make up the Pay Rate difference.
A few samples from the Annual Salary Survey:
1. FedEx
Year 4/5 75 CA
Live in base and bid reserve.
Hourly: 258k
Per Diem: Spent
Nights away: 19
Block: 57.6 hrs
2. FedEx year 3-4 (757 Capt)
Live in Base
Bid Reserve when not Instructing
Pick up extra reserve and standby periods sitting at home
Pay - 320k
DC - 22,900k
Per diem - Almost none since I barely fly
Block - 61.2
24 nights away from home
3. FDX 6/7 year 757 Capt
302 block
87 landings
99 days on the road
Mid $300s all inclusive.
4. FedEx - Year 3
4 months @ 767 FO
3 months @ Training pay
5 months @ 757 CA
Total: $321k (Gross + DC)
Gross: $298k
DC: $22.9k
Per Diem: $8k
Block: 410 hours
Credit: 1,361 hours
All of these guys/gals are relatively junior. I know that we have some 777FO's clearing $400K, but those are extremely senior guys/gals and are far from the norm. Plus, if your a 777FO at 7+ years seniority you could've already held WB Captain. Too each his own, but I'd say that you'd have to be better than 50% in seat and working many more days as a 777FO to match or out earn a 757CA.
shhhhhhhh!!! You cannot make any money in the left seat of the 75. Its nothing but eye bleeding 3 leg turns in the middle of the night. Stay far far away. Move along nothing to see here.
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