Originally Posted by dckozak

All kidding aside, how many more indignities are this crew force/industry going to accept in the interest of moving freight out of China. Fedex management seems happy enough to pass along pronouncements of ever intrusive and ridiculous requirements and our company, our management, eager to make big money off the backs of its front line employees, just passes along this garbage. I know those of us lucky enough to be senior or not on a fleet that goes to Asia can avoid this stupidity, but not all can. I wish our union would grow a pair and just say No, and strongly advise all to do the same. I know without a formal agreement by the company to do so, some of our pilots will continue to just fly into China and accept the conditions forced on them. I know Fedex's answer, if forced by lack of willing participants, would be just to open their wallet and pay more, but we are not even doing that. It's time to say, enough is enough.

Originally Posted by wrxpilot

Great idea! Then we can cancel all new hire classes and furlough 30% of the pilot group.

I predict we will soon just stop CAN layovers, but continue to operate in China.

Originally Posted by angry tanker

The Chinese want us out. The level of harassment will just keep clicking up, till Fedex says uncle. Just move the hub to CRK or KIX for long haul flights. Intra-Asia can all be done out of CAN as hub turns. Stay on the planes, any mx issues, divert to tpe. But all of this is a pipe dream anyway.

Originally Posted by wrxpilot

Ah, yes. CRK, with one end of the only runway that can’t even be used at night, that requires a 180 back taxi. In a country run by a psychopath.

I’m not sure how anyone that has ever been to CRK and more importantly, knows anything about the current political state of the Philippines could see that place as a viable alternative to CAN.

Originally Posted by wrxpilot

Ah, yes. CRK, with one end of the only runway that can’t even be used at night, that requires a 180 back taxi. In a country run by a psychopath.

I’m not sure how anyone that has ever been to CRK and more importantly, knows anything about the current political state of the Philippines could see that place as a viable alternative to CAN.

Originally Posted by BlueAvi8tor

Do you think the Chinese leadership are also psychopathic?

Originally Posted by dckozak

All kidding aside, how many more indignities are this crew force/industry going to accept in the interest of moving freight out of China. Fedex management seems happy enough to pass along pronouncements of ever intrusive and ridiculous requirements and our company, our management, eager to make big money off the backs of its front line employees, just passes along this garbage. I know those of us lucky enough to be senior or not on a fleet that goes to Asia can avoid this stupidity, but not all can. I wish our union would grow a pair and just say No, and strongly advise all to do the same. I know without a formal agreement by the company to do so, some of our pilots will continue to just fly into China and accept the conditions forced on them. I know Fedex's answer, if forced by lack of willing participants, would be just to open their wallet and pay more, but we are not even doing that. It's time to say, enough is enough.

Originally Posted by FedEx Pilot

Asia One at its finest
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Originally Posted by dckozak

All kidding aside, how many more indignities are this crew force/industry going to accept in the interest of moving freight out of China. Fedex management seems happy enough to pass along pronouncements of ever intrusive and ridiculous requirements and our company, our management, eager to make big money off the backs of its front line employees, just passes along this garbage. I know those of us lucky enough to be senior or not on a fleet that goes to Asia can avoid this stupidity, but not all can. I wish our union would grow a pair and just say No, and strongly advise all to do the same. I know without a formal agreement by the company to do so, some of our pilots will continue to just fly into China and accept the conditions forced on them. I know Fedex's answer, if forced by lack of willing participants, would be just to open their wallet and pay more, but we are not even doing that. It's time to say, enough is enough.

Originally Posted by CloudSailor

Anyone from FDXALPA reading these forums? Planning and strategizing on how we can join the Corp. on cashing in on our share of the increased action?

There needs to be, at bare minimum, a 50% override on trips that deal with these conditions. Essentially, all international trips until this nonsense abates.