Contract Negotiations and the Schedule
01-27-2022, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox
Disagree. I see us as an asset. Do you know how many times on a routine flight that my crew and I "make it happen?"
01-28-2022, 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox
Disagree. I see us as an asset. Do you know how many times on a routine flight that my crew and I "make it happen?"
01-28-2022, 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox
Disagree. I see us as an asset. Do you know how many times on a routine flight that my crew and I "make it happen?"
01-28-2022, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Merle Haggard;[url=tel:3361431
3361431[/url]]Of course you see yourself as Tom Kazansky - Ice...................man. We all do. We're all aware of the multitude of things we do to prevent the operation from failing every night. WE know that and WE care about that. Management doesn't see it that way - they think they're the ones making it happen and preventing us from screwing it up.
01-28-2022, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox
Well im glad you get it and said it better than I did “preventing the operation from failing every night” but I not an Ice Man. I despise everything about those types.
01-28-2022, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Merle Haggard
The Iceman thing wasn't personal. Just saying that, for the most part, we're pretty good. It would be nice to be treated as such. For instance, maybe offer a legitimate effort at negotiations.
But yes I agree and you said it best. We've all been there where if it weren't for our leadership and decision making skills the flight never would have gone. And those type of nights are happening much more often.
This used to be a well oiled machine. Now we are doing everything possible just to keep the train on the tracks. I think it is because the rest of our support systems are fatigued, just like many of us are but refuse to acknowledge it or fess up. I just pray that we don't have an accident. An MD11 accident right now could be incredibly bad for the companies flying that type. But any accident right now would get extreme oversight from the FAA.
01-28-2022, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox
I apologize. Sometimes I get too riled up (southern speak) when I read motionless comments on the internet and assume what I shouldn't.
But yes I agree and you said it best. We've all been there where if it weren't for our leadership and decision making skills the flight never would have gone. And those type of nights are happening much more often.
This used to be a well oiled machine. Now we are doing everything possible just to keep the train on the tracks. I think it is because the rest of our support systems are fatigued, just like many of us are but refuse to acknowledge it or fess up. I just pray that we don't have an accident. An MD11 accident right now could be incredibly bad for the companies flying that type. But any accident right now would get extreme oversight from the FAA.
But yes I agree and you said it best. We've all been there where if it weren't for our leadership and decision making skills the flight never would have gone. And those type of nights are happening much more often.
This used to be a well oiled machine. Now we are doing everything possible just to keep the train on the tracks. I think it is because the rest of our support systems are fatigued, just like many of us are but refuse to acknowledge it or fess up. I just pray that we don't have an accident. An MD11 accident right now could be incredibly bad for the companies flying that type. But any accident right now would get extreme oversight from the FAA.
01-28-2022, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox
I apologize. Sometimes I get too riled up (southern speak) when I read motionless comments on the internet and assume what I shouldn't.
But yes I agree and you said it best. We've all been there where if it weren't for our leadership and decision making skills the flight never would have gone. And those type of nights are happening much more often.
This used to be a well oiled machine. Now we are doing everything possible just to keep the train on the tracks. I think it is because the rest of our support systems are fatigued, just like many of us are but refuse to acknowledge it or fess up. I just pray that we don't have an accident. An MD11 accident right now could be incredibly bad for the companies flying that type. But any accident right now would get extreme oversight from the FAA.
But yes I agree and you said it best. We've all been there where if it weren't for our leadership and decision making skills the flight never would have gone. And those type of nights are happening much more often.
This used to be a well oiled machine. Now we are doing everything possible just to keep the train on the tracks. I think it is because the rest of our support systems are fatigued, just like many of us are but refuse to acknowledge it or fess up. I just pray that we don't have an accident. An MD11 accident right now could be incredibly bad for the companies flying that type. But any accident right now would get extreme oversight from the FAA.
01-30-2022, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Merle Haggard
I wouldn't need a raise if I could just have a nickel for every error I have caught/prevented/corrected in the last 12-18 months (errors originating outside of the airplane).
