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Old 01-07-2022, 08:23 AM
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Other ALPA airlines have forums on their union websites. At a previous airline, it was a pretty active place where we could say whatever was on our minds without fear of public scrutiny. DEAR FDX ALPA, MAYBE WE CAN HAVE A FEDEX PILOT FORUM WHERE WE CAN DISCUSS PRIVATE MATTERS IN PRIVATE?
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Old 01-07-2022, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Temocil27 View Post
PRIVATE MATTERS IN PRIVATE?
While I understand your sentiments, I advise everyone that NOTHING is ever private. Even airlines have pulled “secure” WhatsApp, ALPA and APC forums as part of ‘discovery’ during lawsuits and trials. I’m a ALPA guy, not at your company, but still just want to warn everyone, they are watching. F & H and your company have people who comb these post daily, cross check names with other emails, IP addressed and anything they can. Don’t ever post anything that you don’t want to see in a trial is my advice.

Nothing is private. Even “van” talk has shown up in courtrooms, so just be cautious.
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Old 01-07-2022, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Temocil27 View Post
Other ALPA airlines have forums on their union websites. At a previous airline, it was a pretty active place where we could say whatever was on our minds without fear of public scrutiny. DEAR FDX ALPA, MAYBE WE CAN HAVE A FEDEX PILOT FORUM WHERE WE CAN DISCUSS PRIVATE MATTERS IN PRIVATE?
I, too, came from an airline that had a forum on its union website. It was anything BUT private and secure (or friendly or courteous, but I digress)! There were many pilots who liked to produce screenshots for management. As others have stated, NOTHING is private.
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Old 01-07-2022, 10:49 AM
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I advise everyone that NOTHING is ever private.
Except phone trees. They worked great. We should bring them back.....
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Old 01-07-2022, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Merle Haggard View Post
The fact that I don't see these forums filled with people upset about what went on in the MD training office does not give me a warm fuzzy about the greater issues.
Surely you can’t be serious.

These forums are probably the WORST place to have these discussions.
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Old 01-07-2022, 02:43 PM
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Everyone needs to get past emotions. Let the NC post the TA and then vote. Its that simple. We should be ready to vote down several TA's to get what we deserve. Its pretty obvious the NC isn't going to be close on what the pilot group wanted. The company is finally feeling the squeeze for the first time in 40yrs. They will offer up contract after contract until we get what we want. Being close to our goals is NOT meeting our goals. Get ready for more maneuvering on the company's part to sell us short.
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Old 01-07-2022, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ClncClarence View Post
Surely you can’t be serious.

These forums are probably the WORST place to have these discussions.
I'm not talking about a nuts and bolts discussion about details, privileged information or the like. I'm just surprised it didn't cause an uptick in a general sentiment of frustration or being fed-up.

And don't call me Shirley.
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Old 01-07-2022, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Merle Haggard View Post
I'm not talking about a nuts and bolts discussion about details, privileged information or the like. I'm just surprised it didn't cause an uptick in a general sentiment of frustration or being fed-up.

And don't call me Shirley.
there’s plenty of conversation happening in the other venue.
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Old 01-07-2022, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Huck View Post
This forum is wide open and frequently visited by management, interns for management, and clerks for Ford and Harrison.

Anything you post on this forum regarding negotiations is tantamount to a public statement by the pilots. None of which help our cause.
Ford and Harrison really? Living in past much? They are not involved in this negotiation at all. company is using exactly zero outside help.
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Old 01-07-2022, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by FDX1 View Post
That is the most moronic sentiment and. Shows zero thought about the seriousness of this post.

The entire concept is akin to having an abortion, hoping that the next baby will be more acceptable.

But hey- you do you, I’ll weigh the entirety of the agreement and vote up or down based on the merits of the final product.
Well said…
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