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5millionaire 07-23-2022 04:50 PM
Originally Posted by Noworkallplay (Post 3465752)
They are good questions and hopefully I had some valuable answers. As others have said if we get a great contract it floats all boats. The FDX contract in 2015 did just that. It didn’t get the retirement piece solved but at the time it crushed everyone else’s pay to include work rules and soft pay. We are still industry top in vacation and retirement (probably now tied with brown on retirement depending on age).
can you comment on why be part of ALPA?

Noworkallplay 07-23-2022 04:56 PM
Originally Posted by 5millionaire (Post 3465754)
can you comment on why be part of ALPA?
Someone else is probably better suited for that question. Some things that initially come to mind. 1) They have a big voice in DC. 2) Track record of industry leading contracts. Like I said earlier I'm not stuck on the name of the union since it’s only as strong as the pilot group. Isn’t American trying to go back to ALPA? Makes you wonder why

Exconewr 07-23-2022 04:57 PM
Originally Posted by Noworkallplay (Post 3463075)
This is a copy from the UA board. A slightly different set of circumstances however the same narrative at our property. I warned ya.

“Pre merger there would have been ZERO United pilots picking up any trips during negotiations. If they had their schedules would have been posted behind the glass of the ALPA message boards for all to see. Now we have a new group of pilots bragging about how they get 140 hours of pay every month and fly down to 10 days off and the TA will hurt their chances to keep flying as much as possible on their days off.

That is the reason we have the current TA. We don’t need improvements to reserve, etc because the company knows they can just add some PP and guys are falling all over themselves to grab those trips, even complaining when they can’t fly OT.

You can blame the NC all you want but this pilot group’s daily actions are the blame.”
Think that UAL was in bankruptcy, close to liquidation and hated by its customers…….I remember it well, was always glad they didn’t hire me.

5millionaire 07-23-2022 05:10 PM
Are you guys at purple or do you work for ALPA?

USMCFDX 07-23-2022 05:19 PM
Originally Posted by 5millionaire (Post 3465769)
Are you guys at purple or do you work for ALPA?
Nope - he is a troll, not at purple, blocked by many, and you keep quoting him so we are forced to see his posts

5millionaire 07-23-2022 05:21 PM
Originally Posted by USMCFDX (Post 3465772)
Nope - he is a troll, not at purple, blocked by many, and you keep quoting him so we are forced to see his posts
noted


trolls everywhere!

Noworkallplay 07-23-2022 05:40 PM
Originally Posted by 5millionaire (Post 3465774)
noted


trolls everywhere!
I would encourage you to read USMC’s post. Any time someone disagrees with him he says they are not FedEx pilots. I have been at another legacy airline so I think I have a fairly good perspective on the industry. Many friends/relatives who have been around FDX for a LONG time. Some retired for years. What did I say to you that was trollish? I tried to add perspective and reality to what other airlines have/don’t have and what we have. The other big point I made was a union is only as strong as the ENTIRE pilot group. If thats trollish then some people need thicker skin. Is the point of forums for everyone to always think the same way? Good luck on that with a bunch of pilots. The only people who block other posters are those who only want to hear themselves talk.

5millionaire 07-23-2022 05:44 PM
Originally Posted by Noworkallplay (Post 3465781)
I would encourage you to read USMC’s post. Any time someone disagrees with him he says they are not FedEx pilots. I have been at another legacy airline so I think I have a fairly good perspective on the industry. Many friends/relatives who have been around FDX for a LONG time. Some retired for years. What did I say to you that was trollish? I tried to add perspective and reality to what other airlines have/don’t have and what we have. The other big point I made was a union is only as strong as the ENTIRE pilot group. If thats trollish then some people need thicker skin. Is the point of forums for everyone to always think the same way? Good luck on that with a bunch of pilots. The only people who block other posters are those who only want to hear themselves talk.
I’m guessing you’re at UA. Otherwise why be in a FedEx thread.

Noworkallplay 07-23-2022 05:49 PM
Originally Posted by 5millionaire (Post 3465784)
I’m guessing you’re at UA. Otherwise why be in a FedEx thread.
No I use to be at another legacy. Im at FDX.

HvypurplePylot 07-23-2022 08:41 PM
Originally Posted by 5millionaire (Post 3465754)
can you comment on why be part of ALPA?
Becauae the resources that ALPA provides are worth the dues. We are only as strong as our individual membership makes our association. The IPA has less than 3000 pilots, don't think they are going to welcome twice that number of un-unified FedEx pilots just looking for an alternative. At the end of the day the volunteers and unity of the pilot group makes a strong union. We as FDX ALPA are some of the most un-unified pilots in the industry and thus we are weak. That has nothing to do with the leadership and everything to do with the "independent contractors" that work here.


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