Lessons Learned at United
 

This is a copy from the UA board. A slightly different set of circumstances however the same narrative at our property. I warned ya.

“Pre merger there would have been ZERO United pilots picking up any trips during negotiations. If they had their schedules would have been posted behind the glass of the ALPA message boards for all to see. Now we have a new group of pilots bragging about how they get 140 hours of pay every month and fly down to 10 days off and the TA will hurt their chances to keep flying as much as possible on their days off.

That is the reason we have the current TA. We don’t need improvements to reserve, etc because the company knows they can just add some PP and guys are falling all over themselves to grab those trips, even complaining when they can’t fly OT.

You can blame the NC all you want but this pilot group’s daily actions are the blame.”

Preach!
 

Yes! Bump this and keep it at the top. Everyone out there with the colorful calendars and "willing to extend" in the notes on their trip pairing are buddy f&*%ers. They should all eat alone at layovers and be treated like lepers. They are 100% the reason contracts take a long time here. Independent contractors. F em.

For every trip they pick up, I drop two. It will never be enough. I want a better contract and will reap the benefits after we vote it in.

This being my first contract negotiations at Purple, I am floored at the number of pilots in every fleet and both seats who think that "fly your schedule" is a mantra that doesn't apply to them.

I have flown with numerous Capts and jumpseaters who are proudly talking about their open time trips and how much of that sweet sweet DRF they're getting.

It's pathetic really. Glad you get it, hopefully more of us will spread our displeasure with those that don't care.

This is my 3rd contract here, and nothings changed. Yawn. I say take care of yourself and your family, do whatever you feel you need to do. Everyone else is and you’re right, they’re bragging about how much extra theyre doing. , no shame, no humility, hence no contract. The extra flying will eventually dry up and they’ll all complain about our sh!tty TA when we get it. Bottom line, You gotta be able to look at yourself in the mirror at the end of the day though.

Isn’t that the mentality of the pilots he is referring to?

BUT BUT BUT the draft street corner workers blame everyone else just months ago. Now we are realizing the real problem is the greed within the crew force dating back 30 years…..

Leadership starts from the top. When the Captains I fly with brag about he AVA and DFT they get…the newhires see it and they are gonna act accordingly. However, if they said, we’re in negations, fly your line. And if they frowned upon and mentored their crews about the task at hand, then others would fall in line, we’d be better off as a whole. But they don’t. They’re proud to show pictures of their Porsches, Indian motorcycles, brand new avionics or paint jobs of their airplanes (plural) , I was an MD FO last time and rumor has it WE FOs held the line and brought the company to its knees. This contract, I don’t see it.

That last contract made me realize we all are independent contractors, and I’m not gonna get played again. I even remember standing at the computer and a JSing CA had the balls to call CRS, right in front of everybody, and asked, “ Hello, I’m JSing out, but am available if you need me.” I mean cmon!!! Atleast go outside and call!!!

We get the contract we deserve. Period.

We have pilots making over a million a year, CRS have their gotos on speed dial ( out of seniority order mind you), what kinda contract do you expect?