Originally Posted by oncewasgood (Post 3609417)

That is an incorrect statement. They had all those items on the table entering mediation. We didn’t.

Originally Posted by UnusualAttitude (Post 3609421)

PM has been on full time flight pay loss for several years now. The targeted approach has failed. It’s time for the NC to present the targeted approach failure to the mediators and communicate the desire to negotiate a more comprehensive contract in line with changing pilot needs, Scope being issue #1. At that point the current failed NC should return to the line and let a new team lead. Any MEC reps who don’t like this plan should resign or be recalled and let a team with a forward looking vision lead.

Originally Posted by HvypurplePylot (Post 3609494)

Has PM brought a substandard TA to the pilot group yet?

Originally Posted by Merle Haggard (Post 3609534)

Maybe they should. And then they should recommend a NO vote based on the changes to management plans and industry standards that have occurred while the company dragged their feet (again). That may be our best bet.

Originally Posted by UnusualAttitude (Post 3609421)

PM has been on full time flight pay loss for several years now. The targeted approach has failed. It’s time for the NC to present the targeted approach failure to the mediators and communicate the desire to negotiate a more comprehensive contract in line with changing pilot needs, Scope being issue #1. At that point the current failed NC should return to the line and let a new team lead. Any MEC reps who don’t like this plan should resign or be recalled and let a team with a forward looking vision lead.

Originally Posted by Merle Haggard (Post 3609534)

Maybe they should. And then they should recommend a NO vote based on the changes to management plans and industry standards that have occurred while the company dragged their feet (again). That may be our best bet.

Originally Posted by pinseeker (Post 3609570)

Ask PM why he can't do that. He'll give you a pretty good answer.

Originally Posted by oncewasgood (Post 3609636)

UA im not sure what the NC diatribe you went off on has to do with anything. Are you mad that the negotiating committee is not flying full-time? Do you not think they’re doing full-time work during negotiations? I would make an educated guess they are working more hours than we are as line pilots. As other posters have pointed out why don’t you step up? I saw a posting for numerous elections over the last few months. Was your name on the list? It’s obvious you believe in an approach that entails opening numerous sections. That, however, was not the opinion of the majority of pilots in the surveys it sounds like. Get over it you were in the minority. The majority wins. This is the basis of a union vs being a none union pilot group. Like pinseeker pointed out show up and recall them or shut up. Talking like a tough guy on the internet about people behind their back is cowardly. Professionalism