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Old 07-05-2023 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Spot13
We will get a follow up email on how we voted after JB, Pilot management, MEC/NC, and the company atty's review/change our vote

And if we change it back a call to schedule a meeting with Harvey Watt.
Thanks for the morning laugh. Funny, when I voted it let me change every NO vote to a Yes. You guys are lucky there's no annual psych test to keep your medical.
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Old 07-05-2023 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by gasnhaul
Interestingly it doesn’t show how you voted, it only says “received for tabulation”

That sure gives me a warm fuzzy🙄
You do understand it is possible for somebody to have a different opinion on an election than you without that person being a member of a global cabal bent on skewing election results and stealing your vote. The earth isn’t flat. Contrails aren’t “chemI-trails” designed to poison us or change weather, we did land on the moon, 9-11 was not an inside job.
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Old 07-05-2023 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Stan446
Thanks for the morning laugh. Funny, when I voted it let me change every NO vote to a Yes. You guys are lucky there's no annual psych test to keep your medical.
I thought you said you only posted here in the morning on the can? Guess you lied about that too
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Old 07-05-2023 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Stan446
Thanks for the morning laugh. Funny, when I voted it let me change every NO vote to a Yes. You guys are lucky there's no annual psych test to keep your medical.
There you go, calling everyone crazy who doesn’t trust those who tell us to trust them, but not for the sins of mankind there would be no crimes, no judicial system, and no prisons.

How does one trust a system that is “safeguarded” by those who clearly have an interest in a particular outcome?

Yes, I’m insane. sure. I would argue that you are grossly naive. It would be cute, if it wasn’t so tragic.
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Old 07-05-2023 | 10:29 AM
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Guys, stan is telling you what he will do for an extra buck. What did you expect him to say as one of OUR pilot management or a MEC/NC representative or even more slanderous - a company lawyer. He is out the door and cannot do anything when this contract fails.
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Old 07-05-2023 | 11:42 AM
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So we should question the results of the strike authorization vote, since the same type of e-ballot receipt was used. Or, are you only going to question the process if you don't like the result. As a NO voter myself, I question how sane the no crowd is and whether I want to be associated with them.
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Old 07-05-2023 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by pinseeker
So we should question the results of the strike authorization vote, since the same type of e-ballot receipt was used. Or, are you only going to question the process if you don't like the result. As a NO voter myself, I question how sane the no crowd is and whether I want to be associated with them.
Well, I voted "YES".....I did so after reading and understanding everything and listening to the road shows....As I said before, the new language does not make it easier to wet lease the whole company...Like Huck said (I loosely paraphrase)....you can watch Raj gut the company, or you can make more money while Raj guts the company. I am making a pragmatic decision that's best for me, though the figurative name calling, bullying, and character assassination did nothing to sway me to a "NO" vote.

If you are concerned about the veracity of your vote, the receipt has a receipt number. If you are concerned about the published outcome, you can challenge it I imagine with your receipt number.

Jakal
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Old 07-05-2023 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Laughing_Jakal
Well, I voted "YES".....I did so after reading and understanding everything and listening to the road shows....As I said before, the new language does not make it easier to wet lease the whole company...Like Huck said (I loosely paraphrase)....you can watch Raj gut the company, or you can make more money while Raj guts the company. I am making a pragmatic decision that's best for me, though the figurative name calling, bullying, and character assassination did nothing to sway me to a "NO" vote.

If you are concerned about the veracity of your vote, the receipt has a receipt number. If you are concerned about the published outcome, you can challenge it I imagine with your receipt number.

Jakal
Given your rational for voting yes, we all should have all just done all the Draft and AVA we could during negotiations. We should have all made as much money as we could. SMH

It’s a dang shame you couldn’t vote YES because it’s a good TA and meets you goals and standards.
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Old 07-05-2023 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by StarClipper
Given your rational for voting yes, we all should have all just done all the Draft and AVA we could during negotiations. We should have all made as much money as we could. SMH

It’s a dang shame you couldn’t vote YES because it’s a good TA and meets you goals and standards.
Well my goals and standards were pretty high....it is a shame it isn't what I wanted....but in Collective Bargaining, no one ever gets what they want personally.

No.....that would be inconsistent....we were in negotiations then...negotiations are over.....finis......at least for the time being, whether anyone likes it or not. The RLA process is the process and anger, alternate theorie, and wishful thinking aren't going to change that process very quickly if at all. I do not share your optimism that the company will "Lay more money on the table" so quickly.....

I'm choosing to not put my "Mad" in front of my "Money"....I've done that before and it cost me a lot.


I sure hope you aren't intimating that I took action to undermine our Negotiating Committee. It's easy to do anonymously. Shaman made contact with me and he's a good guy, though we disagree....we had a nice if not energetic conversation. I understood his rationale but don't hold the same viewpoint.

He knows who I am, he can easily look up my calendar.
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Old 07-05-2023 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by StarClipper
Given your rational for voting yes, we all should have all just done all the Draft and AVA we could during negotiations. We should have all made as much money as we could. SMH

It’s a dang shame you couldn’t vote YES because it’s a good TA and meets you goals and standards.
The thing is you DID fly all that extra over time and are now here complaining.
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