4a.2.b/c
07-16-2023 | 02:31 PM
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ALPA leadership at FedEx is an absolute joke. May and Norman should be ashamed at themselves for providing a concessionary industry worst divisive contract then essentially threatening probationary ALPA members with a furlough who don’t even have a vote in the matter. How it is not a complete conflict of interest to have 2/4 of the major players in this negotiation retiring very soon while trying to negotiate an increased pension at the last minute is beyond me.
As someone who would absolutely be furloughed in the event of a furlough DO NOT vote yes for this because of the fear inducing slander these boobs are regurgitating. Those of us on the so called chopping block IF that were to happen would land just fine with every passenger carrier on earth hiring and regional airlines offering 100k signing bonuses and direct entry captain positions with longevity honored. Try me
Fedex has been nothing short of a disappointment for me so far and a long ways away from the bs that was spoken to us during indoc by management pilots about the best job in the world, how much money we are going to make, hiring 7000 pilots…
before you tell me to leave I can promise you I’m looking at all options and very seriously considering it
As someone who would absolutely be furloughed in the event of a furlough DO NOT vote yes for this because of the fear inducing slander these boobs are regurgitating. Those of us on the so called chopping block IF that were to happen would land just fine with every passenger carrier on earth hiring and regional airlines offering 100k signing bonuses and direct entry captain positions with longevity honored. Try me
Fedex has been nothing short of a disappointment for me so far and a long ways away from the bs that was spoken to us during indoc by management pilots about the best job in the world, how much money we are going to make, hiring 7000 pilots…
before you tell me to leave I can promise you I’m looking at all options and very seriously considering it
07-16-2023 | 04:10 PM
#13
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Fedex has been nothing short of a disappointment for me so far and a long ways away from the bs that was spoken to us during indoc by management pilots about the best job in the world, how much money we are going to make, hiring 7000 pilots…
before you tell me to leave I can promise you I’m looking at all options and very seriously considering it
before you tell me to leave I can promise you I’m looking at all options and very seriously considering it
It appears that management is dead-set on taking us down the path of pain. Let's not go easily.
07-16-2023 | 06:49 PM
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ALPA leadership at FedEx is an absolute joke. May and Norman should be ashamed at themselves for providing a concessionary industry worst divisive contract then essentially threatening probationary ALPA members with a furlough who don’t even have a vote in the matter. How it is not a complete conflict of interest to have 2/4 of the major players in this negotiation retiring very soon while trying to negotiate an increased pension at the last minute is beyond me.
As someone who would absolutely be furloughed in the event of a furlough DO NOT vote yes for this because of the fear inducing slander these boobs are regurgitating. Those of us on the so called chopping block IF that were to happen would land just fine with every passenger carrier on earth hiring and regional airlines offering 100k signing bonuses and direct entry captain positions with longevity honored. Try me
Fedex has been nothing short of a disappointment for me so far and a long ways away from the bs that was spoken to us during indoc by management pilots about the best job in the world, how much money we are going to make, hiring 7000 pilots…
before you tell me to leave I can promise you I’m looking at all options and very seriously considering it
As someone who would absolutely be furloughed in the event of a furlough DO NOT vote yes for this because of the fear inducing slander these boobs are regurgitating. Those of us on the so called chopping block IF that were to happen would land just fine with every passenger carrier on earth hiring and regional airlines offering 100k signing bonuses and direct entry captain positions with longevity honored. Try me
Fedex has been nothing short of a disappointment for me so far and a long ways away from the bs that was spoken to us during indoc by management pilots about the best job in the world, how much money we are going to make, hiring 7000 pilots…
before you tell me to leave I can promise you I’m looking at all options and very seriously considering it
07-17-2023 | 06:34 AM
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TA fail or pass, I don't think the predicted exodus of retirements is a likely outcome. Pass - pilots who can will stay around to max out their A-fund bump and make all they can at the new, higher pay rates. Fail - those who can will stick around hoping for a TA 2.0 bump before they get shown the door. Then there's also the Age 67 factor too.
07-17-2023 | 06:35 AM
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Hahahah. “The new TA will offset the depressed wages caused by 4a2b” Norman the fearless leader. I wouldn’t follow this guy into battle if the opposition was using nerf guns. It would be nice if the MEC had this level of communication during negotiations instead of after the fact when they find out people aren’t happy with the concessionary deal they signed with industry last pay rates. You know what would help even more with the depressed wages caused by 4a2b industry leading pay rates how about that…
I’m no expert by any means but I’ve read articles about previous negotiations and it seems like this playbook has been used every time to scare us into a bad deal. it’s sad it’s coming from our own union instead of just letting the group vote according to the merits of the contract.
I’m no expert by any means but I’ve read articles about previous negotiations and it seems like this playbook has been used every time to scare us into a bad deal. it’s sad it’s coming from our own union instead of just letting the group vote according to the merits of the contract.
07-17-2023 | 07:11 AM
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Our MEC Chair could not be more out of touch if he was "Leroy Jenkins" himself. In his message today he says:
"The Union has never stated that there would or would not be furloughs. "
If that was true, how does he explain the "RATFIED" slide presented by the NC during the LAX roadshow?
The desperation being shown by union leadership is off the charts. Sadly This TA is not selling itself.
"The Union has never stated that there would or would not be furloughs. "
If that was true, how does he explain the "RATFIED" slide presented by the NC during the LAX roadshow?
The desperation being shown by union leadership is off the charts. Sadly This TA is not selling itself.
07-17-2023 | 07:13 AM
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ALPA leadership at FedEx is an absolute joke. May and Norman should be ashamed at themselves for providing a concessionary industry worst divisive contract then essentially threatening probationary ALPA members with a furlough who don’t even have a vote in the matter. How it is not a complete conflict of interest to have 2/4 of the major players in this negotiation retiring very soon while trying to negotiate an increased pension at the last minute is beyond me.
As someone who would absolutely be furloughed in the event of a furlough DO NOT vote yes for this because of the fear inducing slander these boobs are regurgitating. Those of us on the so called chopping block IF that were to happen would land just fine with every passenger carrier on earth hiring and regional airlines offering 100k signing bonuses and direct entry captain positions with longevity honored. Try me
Fedex has been nothing short of a disappointment for me so far and a long ways away from the bs that was spoken to us during indoc by management pilots about the best job in the world, how much money we are going to make, hiring 7000 pilots…
before you tell me to leave I can promise you I’m looking at all options and very seriously considering it
As someone who would absolutely be furloughed in the event of a furlough DO NOT vote yes for this because of the fear inducing slander these boobs are regurgitating. Those of us on the so called chopping block IF that were to happen would land just fine with every passenger carrier on earth hiring and regional airlines offering 100k signing bonuses and direct entry captain positions with longevity honored. Try me
Fedex has been nothing short of a disappointment for me so far and a long ways away from the bs that was spoken to us during indoc by management pilots about the best job in the world, how much money we are going to make, hiring 7000 pilots…
before you tell me to leave I can promise you I’m looking at all options and very seriously considering it
07-17-2023 | 07:57 AM
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As someone who would also be on the chopping block I 100% agree. Please DO NOT vote yes thinking you’re doing us a favor. At the end of the day, the company is going to do what they want regardless of the outcome. But, the company hasn’t mentioned furlough at all, this has all come from the union.
Voting this in is a vain and unenforceable attempt to keep junior jobs that will make jobs them not worth keeping. The company is not obligated to do anything differently (other than tiny tweaks to SAM which really don't have much to do with furlough) under the TA.
The MEC has taken virtual hostages. Let's not make real concessions.
