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Spot13 07-18-2023 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by TomAce (Post 3668082)
I’m expecting to union to not act like the company will furlough if they have no idea what the company plans to do.

This is not from a source. It will be proven that our ALPA/MEC/NC knew over a year ago what the company's plans are. The bank accounts linked together by everyone in the Union and Pilot management will come to light if this TA were to pass. Why do you think a big change in management is coming up. Yes if you want to say this is a lie go ahead but these two comments will be proven. This is not from a guy I know who knows a guy who knows a guy.

Stan446 07-18-2023 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by Spot13 (Post 3668498)
This is not from a source. It will be proven that our ALPA/MEC/NC knew over a year ago what the company's plans are. The bank accounts linked together by everyone in the Union and Pilot management will come to light if this TA were to pass. Why do you think a big change in management is coming up. Yes if you want to say this is a lie go ahead but these two comments will be proven. This is not from a guy I know who knows a guy who knows a guy.

You are awesome!! You are literally implicating our union leadership in collusion with management and getting a payoff? Please, back on the meds.

threeighteen 07-18-2023 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by JackStraw (Post 3668479)
It’s a FedEx policy. Delta’s probation ends at 6 months.

Everything is negotiable in a CBA.

Is DL's 6 months from DOH or from passing the LOE (I believe they call that 44X?)

JackStraw 07-18-2023 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 3668521)
Everything is negotiable in a CBA.

Is DL's 6 months from DOH or from passing the LOE (I believe they call that 44X?)

At 400 hours

Temocil27 07-18-2023 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by Stan446 (Post 3668519)
You are awesome!! You are literally implicating our union leadership in collusion with management and getting a payoff? Please, back on the meds.

Theyre not the only one that thinks this. Most of my friend group here thinks the same thing. Occam’s razor.

Spot13 07-18-2023 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by Stan446 (Post 3668519)
You are awesome!! You are literally implicating our union leadership in collusion with management and getting a payoff? Please, back on the meds.

There is no implicating here and you Stan will have to campaign to remove my comments. I will not delete them and.these comments will only be proven. The 2015 contract resulted in many going to management or the Union starting consultation businesses.

Are you that far removed from reality or are you just a great follower.

FITH 07-18-2023 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by JackStraw (Post 3668542)
At 400 hours

At 400 hours inclusive of OE or 1 year from passing 44X.

JackStraw 07-18-2023 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by FITH (Post 3668618)
At 400 hours inclusive of OE or 1 year from passing 44X.

1 year or 400 hours. About 6 months.

CloudSailor 07-18-2023 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by Idaho (Post 3668474)
Probation should end after 365 days from DOH. If FedEx wants to waste money and time taking 4 months to get someone through training that's not our problem. Once you become a line pilot (passed your IOE ride) you should probably get to have a vote. Is this an ALPA policy or company driven that you can't vote until probation is over? Certainly that person has more at stake, if anything.

Probation used to end at 1 year on property. However, our NC gave that up in 2015 in exchange for 1 year from activation, with nothing to show for it other than "we agree with the company's request".

2015 issues almost seem insignificant when compared to what our NC is trying to give away in this TA now.

FITH 07-18-2023 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by JackStraw (Post 3668619)
1 year or 400 hours. About 6 months.

Oh yeah, there’s nooo way anybody would ever go the full year…


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