sprucie

Any highlights for those of us unable to attend?
I hope they can make it to a night sort as well to cover as many folks as possible.

expatpilot

Notes from the Union meeting at the AOC today.

- The NMB owns us until a contract is signed. They want quantifiable data of why the TA was rejected, which hopefully the results of the phone survey are sufficient to start the process. Web survey would be used to determine priorities in fixing TA or totally starting over.
- Web survey questions will be formed off phone survey results.
- The NMB also wants to see stabilized union leadership. And we must have reasonable requests. If we remain destabilized and/or want to start over from scratch, we will be very low priority for the NMB.
- Starting over could reasonably take 3 years, based on TA1’s timeline.
- United and AA were not in mediation when they got their new TA’s. Downside to us being in mediation is being on the NMB’s timeline.
- Can’t stream union meetings in the AOC due to company policy.
- Work is proceeding on MOU’s outside Section 6 to include medical freedoms.
- The content of many emails to former block 8 rep were shameful and disappointing.
- Email your LEC reps and ask for regular updates via virtual meetings.
- There is no house cleaning going on. Only 2 committee members removed. Can’t disclose why they were removed because of ALPA policy.
- Added a 36 year old pilot to the NC and a block 8 pilot to the R&I committee. Both qualified and experienced.
- Union has 20+ committees that could use your expertise as a volunteer.
- Travel MOU ends Sep 3. Union is challenging the company over this. Union believed banks should stay as they are until the company can get expense reports under control. Non-contractual but still willing to fight for it.
- R24 early assignment and late ASBY creation are not a change in status quo as company is operating within the confinements of CBA. They could always do this, they just chose not to.
- Keep submitting DARTs on suspected contract violations.
- International scope is a valid concern of pilots but unenforceable per the RLA.
- 2 pilots required in the cockpit should be a concern for future scope.

DLax85

It shouldn’t matter when they speak or when pilots fly.

Video. Live and/or recorded. It’s 2023. It’s not too difficult.

The internet removes most time & geographical constraints.

Let’s avoid compartmentalized & filtered information

In TRANSPARENCY, Integrity & Unity (for Everyone),
DLax

Merle Haggard

I seem to recall 10/10 of the original roadsells were scheduled for the day sort.

Lazy. Most of us deplorables work at night.

That said DLax, you're right. Maybe the SECRETARY/treasurer or some full-time employee of the MEC could break out a cell phone for the love of all that's holy.

VamosALaPlaya

Basically you guys are screwed. Start over or tweak, it’s bad either way, especially because the NMB will see barely over 50% rejected the TA. Ugly situation either way.

ogarmyopar

yes since we all trust the load of bs that these guys spout any chance they get with vague threats and scare tactics

ogarmyopar

3 years it is then. Not a single thing in the May TA was appealing. Bunch of pushovers

threeighteen

Looks like a 3 year deal then.

BrianH

Was there any mention about having special Local Council meetings so the members could voice our opinion about who will represent us after the failed TA 1.0? Why is there resistance by so many council leaders to call for those meetings? After all to have a stable MEC, shouldn't the member have a voice as to who will represent us and who will be removed from those duties?

The sooner we have those meeting the better. Why wait? Delaying the process does not help any of us.


Then the newly formed MEC can decide if any of the officers should remain or not, as well as if we need a new NC.

JustInFacts

Didn't your LEC have a meeting? Can't the members of the other LEC's force a meeting? Why not stay in your lane and let the members of the other LEC's take care of their own business!