FedEx to Hike Shipping Rates 5.9% on Jan 2024
09-14-2023, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by NotMrNiceGuy
I think it’s noteworthy that a few carriers offer an override for operating flights during the Window of Circadian Low.
Additionally, If I’m not mistaken, SWA prevents these operations entirely. I think that speaks to an increased level of difficulty.
Many non-aviation jobs offer premium pay for graveyard shifts.
I remember naively attending and OBAP/WAI conference years ago and the FedEx pilots said the company was proud to offer premium pay and vacation due to the more challenging work environment.
If the cargo carriers ever need pilots at the same time as passenger carriers, premium pay will have to come as there will be no other incentive to go to cargo. Stability is now common to all carriers. There must be a draw for cargo as QOL is better at the passenger side at this point.
Additionally, If I’m not mistaken, SWA prevents these operations entirely. I think that speaks to an increased level of difficulty.
Many non-aviation jobs offer premium pay for graveyard shifts.
I remember naively attending and OBAP/WAI conference years ago and the FedEx pilots said the company was proud to offer premium pay and vacation due to the more challenging work environment.
If the cargo carriers ever need pilots at the same time as passenger carriers, premium pay will have to come as there will be no other incentive to go to cargo. Stability is now common to all carriers. There must be a draw for cargo as QOL is better at the passenger side at this point.
Now you are making stuff up about SWA. SWA lack of redeye flying had to do with their antiquated scheduling system.
When you got hired, our pay was behind DAL, UAL, AA, and UPS. So why did you come here?
09-14-2023, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by JustInFacts
Whoa, Fedex flies at night???? You didn't know that when you were seeking the job?
Now you are making stuff up about SWA. SWA lack of redeye flying had to do with their antiquated scheduling system.
When you got hired, our pay was behind DAL, UAL, AA, and UPS. So why did you come here?
Now you are making stuff up about SWA. SWA lack of redeye flying had to do with their antiquated scheduling system.
When you got hired, our pay was behind DAL, UAL, AA, and UPS. So why did you come here?
I don’t fly many nights, so I’m not sure what point you’re making. JB and I believe Spirit and Frontier have redeye overrides. That’s all I was alluding to. They literally pay a premium which was the original topic.
So, it seems you’re not familiar with how airline contracts work. They’re typically multi-year. So when one passes, it’s only a matter of time before it is surpassed. You need only reference the DAL contract that was passed last winter and will be passed by UAL. DAL passed UPS just prior.
As far as I know, FDX was industry leading at time of passing in 2006, 2011, and 2015. That’s all I expect. Not complicated.
Try not to make assumptions. You know what happens when you do.
09-14-2023, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by NotMrNiceGuy
I get that you’re trolling, but I’ll indulge you.
I don’t fly many nights, so I’m not sure what point you’re making. JB and I believe Spirit and Frontier have redeye overrides. That’s all I was alluding to. They literally pay a premium which was the original topic.
So, it seems you’re not familiar with how airline contracts work. They’re typically multi-year. So when one passes, it’s only a matter of time before it is surpassed. You need only reference the DAL contract that was passed last winter and will be passed by UAL. DAL passed UPS just prior.
As far as I know, FDX was industry leading at time of passing in 2006, 2011, and 2015. That’s all I expect. Not complicated.
Try not to make assumptions. You know what happens when you do.
I don’t fly many nights, so I’m not sure what point you’re making. JB and I believe Spirit and Frontier have redeye overrides. That’s all I was alluding to. They literally pay a premium which was the original topic.
So, it seems you’re not familiar with how airline contracts work. They’re typically multi-year. So when one passes, it’s only a matter of time before it is surpassed. You need only reference the DAL contract that was passed last winter and will be passed by UAL. DAL passed UPS just prior.
As far as I know, FDX was industry leading at time of passing in 2006, 2011, and 2015. That’s all I expect. Not complicated.
Try not to make assumptions. You know what happens when you do.
Why were we ahead? When did we pass UAL's 2000 (maybe 2001) contract?
Did you think that Fedex had premium pay for night flying?
I thought the me too clause in DAL's contract along with UAL's contract made it so there pay rates will be the same.
Seems like you are making a lot of assumptions!
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