Anthrax

Nothing like kicking the can down the road until May 2024.

Our union is still a clown show!

And what does “successful terms” mean?
“This agreement will take us up to the May 2024 bid month. If by this time, successful terms have not been bargained, then there will be a transition of the Negotiating Committee.”

And what moves were made “behind the scenes” so as to keep our present NC in place? I thought this group ran on transparency?

Hey MEC Chair: clean the house, you big dummy. PM is no messiah. he needs to go, and it’s sounding like you need to go also.

Unbelievable.

Temocil27

how is going scorched earth at this point going to do anything but lose every pilot money? I agree PM completely hosed us and should have resigned, but here we are back at the table with no end in sight. Clearly the company doesn’t value us as much as we thought and with the soft future outlook and new bosses at the helm we can’t expect any more money thrown our way for future TA’s. That’s a terrible situation, but unfortunately it’s reality. The longer we delay the more money we’re losing every single day.

plzdontfireme

Parking lot deal 2.0 inbound.

Anthrax

Exactly. So why delay this until May?

and yes, the company doesn’t value us. clearly.

Temocil27

having a brand new NC would mean we wouldn’t be able to negotiate for our scheduled sessions

FrankTheTank

Says who? PM? The same guy trying to keep his job? I guess he better not get sick or have a family emergency. I guess the other folks on the committee just sit and watch PM do everything!

JackStraw

Its important to keep PM in place because he’s good buds with PD.

Anthrax

so reschedule!
what would take longer? another failed TA negotiated by a known liar, or organizing a new team?

He lied when he said that he would step down. he threatened us with a furlough should his TA fail, he got outclassed on scope, pay, QOL, and retirement. and now we’re going to send him back into the lion’s den when he’s already made a nest in there, telling the pilot group that we need to accept less because UPS is “eating our lunch!”

what magic words is he now using to stay as NC? this dude needs to step down and go back to the line.

Reps: do not go down this road again. oh, but it’s too late. you all signed a thing keeping him there until May with ambiguous language regarding progress on the TA. when May rolls around with another weak TA or worse, you all need to be recalled again because apparently YOU REPS AREN’T LISTENING!!!!!!!

FrankTheTank

I don’t always agree with you or your style but this is spot on! +1

willflyforfud

I fully respect your right to do the "I told ya so" dance in May if there is no progress. Please everyone just punch your clock and count to ten and breathe. We'll eventually get through this and people on the NC/MEC don't want to work at 2015 wages either. We are all on the same side.

Many on this board remind me of children who are told "NO" by their parents... "but I really want to do this" NO... but I Really Really want this .. etc

Going nuclear just because you aren't satisfied with a direction or decision is not a good coping mechanism. You are only a CAPT on "your" aircraft and we all need some good CRM to get to an uneventful landing and bfast beer. Let's tone the rhetoric down. We have a direction till May, get onboard. Maybe practice your dance.
Happy New Year!! 🎉