Originally Posted by wrxpilot (Post 3755594)

I've been here six years, currently a 76 CA. I fly with a lot of the young guys, and they have some good thoughts on what needs to be changed around here.

Like it or not, the younger folks will be changing this company and the culture. I'm looking forward to it.

Originally Posted by NotOldNotYoung (Post 3755852)

Neither Old or young guys have the perfect insight to what makes a good culture or contract. I find it interesting how folks are just thrilled that younger guys are going to “fix” this place. When in the history of the world did any group say, yeah, let the young folks run it all? All demographics have different inputs to this contract based on their wants, needs and experiences. Everyone gets an input and the MEC will rank the priorities based on those inputs. To just say the youngsters will get their way is rather weak.

Originally Posted by Huck (Post 3755916)

Company's lawyers are gonna read this thread and blaze up cigars with hundred dollar bills.

To paraphrase W. Buckley, what Fedex worries about is a unified, coordinated negotiating effort from its pilots. Which means they have little to fear.

Originally Posted by max8222 (Post 3755604)

Good thing us old guys screwed this place up so bad you are a wide body Capt at six years.

Originally Posted by JackStraw (Post 3755862)

It says a lot about this “airline” that the junior pilot group is referred to as “youngsters” when the median age of the bottom half of the list is probably close to 45 years old (maybe older).

”stay off my lawn!”

Originally Posted by NotOldNotYoung (Post 3755944)

So do you know that median age of junior pilots is 45 or did you just pull that number out? WRXpilot guy was excited about younger pilots fixing our culture and that’s what I’m referring to. Sorry you’re sensitive about the term youngster.

Originally Posted by JackStraw (Post 3756019)

I totally pulled that number out of my arse but you threw down a challenge and awakened the ‘tism in me. According to the data on the FDX alpa site the average age of FOs is 44.66.

*Multiplied each age by the number of FOs with that age, found the sum of all those, divided that by the total number of FOs.

…it’s not the bottom half of the list but whatever, so sue me. It still proves the point...we’re not “youngins”.

Originally Posted by max8222 (Post 3755966)

We have been a predominantly WB airline my whole time here. How come it took 13 years for me to hold wide body captain? Hub turns haven't changed much either. So your theory is baseless as usual.

Originally Posted by ogarmyopar (Post 3746739)

Is there any reason to stay at FX any longer or is this place going to continue to die long term. My original thought was to wait for the contract and maybe a large amount of retirements would come afterwards and maybe in a year or two the stagnation would reverse to hiring again but I just don’t know anymore. I can’t stand our domestic nb flying and it’s looking more and more like I will be stuck on the 75 for the foreseeable future. What is a reason to stay here anymore?

My main reasons for coming here in the first place were simple but they all seem to be a thing of the past.

1. Main reason I came here was simply for higher pay. I thought with a majority fleet of wb’s I would see wb pay longer in my career especially in the left seat which takes a long time to hold at legacy’s. (Also had no idea some of our own guys including our NC would try to argue why our primarily wb fleet shouldn’t command wb rates) Little did I know I’d be stuck in right seat nb when I could be left seat nb at any pax carrier already making double what I make now.
2. came thinking this company basically printed money and it wasn’t susceptible to career changing downturns. Now this could be argued that if where we are now is as bad as it gets then it’s partially true that even in bad times the worst you see here is stagnation and low blgs.
3. came to fly interesting and different international routes. No I’m flying to the same awful cities staying in the same awful hotels I have been for 10 years.
4. Loved the idea of FDA’s. Both dead probably to never return again.
5. Wanted to avoid pax fa’s and security every day. That’s accomplished but doesn’t come with its own annoyances you don’t realize. Can’t get anything resembling a healthy meal anywhere in aoc. Catering is disgusting. And the constant bag drag into a bus off a bus into another bus on a security belt off a security belt etc. Our egregiously ridiculous tech and websites. My god we don’t even have an app to look at schedules or book jumpseats. All just minor annoyances but so was pax, fa’s, security for me.

I don’t completely hate it here and I know there is good flying to be had with seniority but our domestic am flying is horrendous and I have no interest in doing only that for the next 30 years when I could fly those routes in the daytime at pax and catch a jumpseat home when I am done with my trip instead of 6 hours later like our system. I’ve had two legacy’s basically cold call me recently with voicemails to go to interviews and I’m starting to really think about taking a move more seriously.

Originally Posted by Elevation (Post 3762068)

If you're sad at FDX you'll be sad anywhere else when negotiations start up or the economy slows. Choose your sadness then gut it out.

I'm pretty happy at Atlas. Want a recommendation to come here?