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01-19-2024 | 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by iahflyr

Out of curiosity, how do you end up with so many dead heads that you’re clearing 100k of spending on a single airline?

Wolfpack.......

01-20-2024 | 05:05 PM

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Yep. Because they are [unfortunately] the wokest.

That's an understatement. Off the charts Woke now with Kirby at the wheel. But has always been.

01-20-2024 | 05:22 PM

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Wolfpack.......

🙄. I had over $100k in travel bank in 2023 alone, and over $90k accumulated during COVID revisions I had to get rid of. Haven't flown a single draft trip in over 20 years at FedEx and the 777 only started charters recently. I'm just another guy flying the line. And although it was a challenge burning through every last dime of Fred's travel money after all the COVID revisions, I just crunched my numbers for the end of January, and I'm down to zero. Good times.

01-20-2024 | 05:24 PM

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That's an understatement. Off the charts Woke now with Kirby at the wheel. But has always been.

Makes dumping United easier. I've got a lot of friends there. Good guys. Putting in time like the rest of us.

01-20-2024 | 09:31 PM

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Makes dumping United easier. I've got a lot of friends there. Good guys. Putting in time like the rest of us.

Not necessarily a fan of this guy, but he’s on target here. And it makes it even easier to walk away and find a new place to dump Fred’s money.

https://x.com/dancrenshawtx/status/1...zittDynChdhjWA

01-22-2024 | 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ClncClarence

the OAK67 bidpack is largely double deadheads to Asia

Thanks for that explanation. What makes them build the trips that way?

01-22-2024 | 06:44 AM

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Thanks for that explanation. What makes them build the trips that way?

It's a 767 base that focuses most of its flying in Asia. Short haul point to point and turns through the hub in Guangzhou. Basically the flying the Hong Kong based pilots used to do before that base closed. There aren't any local departures from OAK to those Asian cities for obvious reasons with the 767 so everyone on those trips gets positioned by commercial pax flights. There are some domestic trips but the majority are to service the Asia flying.

01-22-2024 | 07:00 AM

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Thanks for sharing. Why did FedEx close the HKG base? I can’t imagine it’s cheaper to spend 100k+ a year per pilot in dead head cost, plus maybe 150k a year in credit while on a dead head

01-22-2024 | 07:10 AM

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Thanks for sharing. Why did FedEx close the HKG base? I can’t imagine it’s cheaper to spend 100k+ a year per pilot in dead head cost, plus maybe 150k a year in credit while on a dead head

Maybe some former HK pilots can comment. But from what I understand, 60-65K per year per pilot in housing costs over there, education expenses for kids, most trip started with deadheads to Guangzhou or other Asia cities (rare to actually leave HK on own metal), Biz class tickets back and forth to US for recurrent every 9 months as some examples. I don't think the cost of positioning and slight inefficiency in rest requirements delaying ability to operate is that much different from the costs of maintaining an overseas base in HK. Both options have pros and cons and probably similar costs overall.