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Old 01-10-2025 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by EMBFlyer
Basically, it doesn't matter what we want. The reps will vote whatever way their base wants to stay in office.
Originally Posted by Nightflyer
The problem is, we don't get to know how our reps voted. If we don't know how they voted, how can they be held accountable for their vote?

They are supposed to represent us, and we should be able to know how they vote.
Nightflyer, thank you for clarifying. A resolution should be made to make the vote known, if possible.
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Old 01-10-2025 | 05:40 PM
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I am not well versed in how this works.

Is the resolution voted on by the block?

Or is it voted on by the MEC?

If it is the MEC, I don't see them voting in favor.
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Old 01-10-2025 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Purpletailed10
When the MEC members vote on the Chairman position it's a secret vote from my understanding.

Is there a way to see how your rep voted after the fact? My rep apparently doesn't support my preference for MEC chairman, so therefore I will not cast my vote for him next go around BUT I'd like to see how he votes.

is that possible?
who do you want for chairman and why?
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Old 01-10-2025 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Nightflyer
The problem is, we don't get to know how our reps voted. If we don't know how they voted, how can they be held accountable for their vote?

They are supposed to represent us, and we should be able to know how they vote.
This issue is important to you: so start a campaign and use the guidelines within our bylaws to make the changes to the Policy Manual.

It may not be easy but you want change, go for it.

Why is this an issue for you now?
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Old 01-10-2025 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Yuko
This issue is important to you: so start a campaign and use the guidelines within our bylaws to make the changes to the Policy Manual.

It may not be easy but you want change, go for it.

Why is this an issue for you now?
I wasn't aware that the vote was secret until now. I am trying to be more in the loop with respect to what "my" union is doing and how they operate.
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Old 01-10-2025 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Nightflyer
I wasn't aware that the vote was secret until now. I am trying to be more in the loop with respect to what "my" union is doing and how they operate.
Understood, but you can still change it with some effort. Good luck.

I do like the engagement all of TA1 has created. It will make for a better union.
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Old 01-11-2025 | 07:49 AM
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Every airline in ALPA has a MEC Policy Manual, and it should be viewable on the MEC website. Download it and look for the section that talks about officers and elections. It will give you a rundown on how officer elections work. Some properties allow, or at least don't prohibit, a "recorded vote", which would provide a breakdown in the actual minutes, but in any event, it's done in open session, so there is no restriction on invidudual members of the MEC writing down who voted for who. That's assuming it's not done via secret ballot, but that would be laid out in the policy manual. There's some flexibility there as long as it complies with the bylaws.

As with all things union, the information is out there, you just have to look for it, and its ususally already there in a PDF of some kind. I would hesitate taking the internet's word on anything, as often times it's less than precise, or subject to the telephone game. Go to the source.
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Old 01-11-2025 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by EMBFlyer
Basically, it doesn't matter what we want. The reps will vote whatever way their base wants to stay in office.
Originally Posted by Nightflyer
The problem is, we don't get to know how our reps voted. If we don't know how they voted, how can they be held accountable for their vote?

They are supposed to represent us, and we should be able to know how they vote.
Just want to make sure I'm following this thread.

1. The reps will cater to their base to keep their position.
2. We don't know how they voted and therefore can't make sure they've done the will of their base.

No wonder this group can't make any headway.
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Old 01-11-2025 | 01:07 PM
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Does Wes Reed have a chance of winning the election for MEC chair?

Just remember, that clown washed out of ALPA work a couple years ago due to closely aligning himself with a former United MEC Chair named Todd Insler. You may remember the UAL "Tumi TA." That was Insler's baby.

Wes Reed's wife's Facebook rant blaming everyone except for her husband for his abysmal judgement and performance was as funny as it was embarrassing, though.
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Old 01-11-2025 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy
Does Wes Reed have a chance of winning the election for MEC chair?

Just remember, that clown washed out of ALPA work a couple years ago due to closely aligning himself with a former United MEC Chair named Todd Insler. You may remember the UAL "Tumi TA." That was Insler's baby.

Wes Reed's wife's Facebook rant blaming everyone except for her husband for his abysmal judgement and performance was as funny as it was embarrassing, though.
Zero chance.

Spouting off in the SM chat that our asks are “unreasonable.” WTF, are you kidding me?

He and RH are a company mouthpiece. Stay far away from them.

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