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Stan446 06-02-2025 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by acecrackshot (Post 3917189)
Still no answer.

still no answer

P-3Bubba 06-03-2025 02:02 AM


Originally Posted by Stan446 (Post 3917315)
still no answer

The point is that it’s the company that’s refused to make a reasonable agreement for 4 YEARS!! It’s
not oh this guy did this or this group is like that. Our peers have ZOOMED past us in scope, QOL, RETIREMENT AND PAY PAY PAY. But keep pointing fingers at ourselves. Management union busting success 101.

-Bubs

Thrust Hold 06-03-2025 05:21 AM


Originally Posted by Viper25 (Post 3917290)
Outdated. Again.

RJ usage has plummeted. Global scope deal in the latest contract has strong protections and remediations for noncompliance. Yes there’s some RJs and there’s codesharing. Now with global scope, any increase in codesharing will cause a required increase in DL widebody pilot jobs.

Wtf do you expect a “good” scope clause to have? Zero RJs and and Zero codeshares? wtf planet do you live on dude. The scope is good. It wasn’t always good. You live in the past and don’t keep up with changes. (BTW The global scope LOA was passed unanimously by the DL MEC and voted in by 90% in favor of the pilots. It is revolutionary).

Feel free to go on the DL forums and ask how much RJ usage has decreased relative to the past several decades. Your anecdotes of “seeing” a bunch of RJs on the ramp are meaningless.

It's not just the Codeshares and RJs. Delta's Joint Ventures (up to 49% ownership) operate a significant amount of their International wide-body flying, which is why they have so few wide-body aircraft compared to their peers. Scope is rumored to be their biggest target in the next round of negotiations.

Idaho 06-03-2025 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by P-3Bubba (Post 3916293)
Yup. Keep voting no. 2015 TA will stay in action to 2035. It’s been 2 years and they’re offering less than 2023. And they can. Cause they can. The reality is this company blows. They don’t give a $heet about anyone or anything. The mistake was buying into the line of nonsense. Best job in aviation. Pathetic. We’ll look like fools when UPS signs $500/hr and we’re still on 2015 rates. FedSux wins again.

-Bubs

I threw out my FedEx water bottle which we were gifted in HF. It was high quality and I used it frequently, but I dislike this place so much now, permanently, that I do not wish to be seen with company merch in public or be reminded of where I work. Especially during time off.

Stan446 06-03-2025 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by Idaho (Post 3917353)
I threw out my FedEx water bottle which we were gifted in HF. It was high quality and I used it frequently, but I dislike this place so much now, permanently, that I do not wish to be seen with company merch in public or be reminded of where I work. Especially during time off.

You showed the company on this one.

Turbolover89 06-03-2025 07:38 AM

Don’t worry fellas, Atlas is about to buy you out anyway….welcome to GIANT!

APCbot 06-03-2025 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by max8222 (Post 3917215)
Your drinking the cool aide
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RJ all over the ramp codeshare wide bodies flying across both oceans where I can by a delta branded ticket but fly on Air France KLM Korean Air. Delta has the least amount of wide bodies. Guess why.

False. American has the least widebodies.

max8222 06-03-2025 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by Viper25 (Post 3917290)
Outdated. Again.

RJ usage has plummeted. Global scope deal in the latest contract has strong protections and remediations for noncompliance. Yes there’s some RJs and there’s codesharing. Now with global scope, any increase in codesharing will cause a required increase in DL widebody pilot jobs.

Wtf do you expect a “good” scope clause to have? Zero RJs and and Zero codeshares? wtf planet do you live on dude. The scope is good. It wasn’t always good. You live in the past and don’t keep up with changes. (BTW The global scope LOA was passed unanimously by the DL MEC and voted in by 90% in favor of the pilots. It is revolutionary).

Feel free to go on the DL forums and ask how much RJ usage has decreased relative to the past several decades. Your anecdotes of “seeing” a bunch of RJs on the ramp are meaningless.

Don’t look at all the RJ’s on the ramp is meaningless, that is the funniest thing I have heard in a while. Yes they have less total RJ’s but they have ERJ170,190 now instead of CRJ 50.

I bet FedEx would jump at that awesome scope similar to Deltas codeshare. Instead of getting the 10 777 they announced we could be like delta and get 5 then wetlease out the other five. Because we would be adding more widebody seats. Hahaha

Your nose is so far up deltas a.. you can’t even think straight.

Viper25 06-03-2025 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by max8222 (Post 3917537)
Don’t look at all the RJ’s on the ramp is meaningless, that is the funniest thing I have heard in a while. Yes they have less total RJ’s but they have ERJ170,190 now instead of CRJ 50.

I bet FedEx would jump at that awesome scope similar to Deltas codeshare. Instead of getting the 10 777 they announced we could be like delta and get 5 then wetlease out the other five. Because we would be adding more widebody seats. Hahaha

Your nose is so far up deltas a.. you can’t even think straight.

You have no clue what you’re talking about. Using 10 year old contract data and stories from your boomer buddies at Delta doesn’t make you an expert. You really consider yourself an expert don’t you?

max8222 06-03-2025 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by Viper25 (Post 3917539)
You have no clue what you’re talking about. Using 10 year old contract data and stories from your boomer buddies at Delta doesn’t make you an expert. You really consider yourself an expert don’t you?

You work for Delta or FedEx? Who do you get your info from? New hires who think they know it all?



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