So what’s the big new rumors out today? Heard it’s DL 2025 pay rates, but not till the end of the new contract.

*pouring gasoline*

 

Don't negotiate in public. Let the NC do their thing.

 

So pretty much it will take us 5 years to make what Delta is making right now? No Thanks!

 

Consider the source.............what a 💩bird.

 

They have ****ed us off so much in pay and retirement now, that a garbage scope section is going to get slid across in a few weeks. I think that's their ultimate goal.

 

this is easy. Just vote no.

 

Yup. Keep voting no. 2015 TA will stay in action to 2035. It’s been 2 years and they’re offering less than 2023. And they can. Cause they can. The reality is this company blows. They don’t give a $heet about anyone or anything. The mistake was buying into the line of nonsense. Best job in aviation. Pathetic. We’ll look like fools when UPS signs $500/hr and we’re still on 2015 rates. FedSux wins again.

-Bubs

 

every year or so the ALPA magazine has a blurb about our negotiations and how it’s been going. What’s mind numbing is even at the height of whatever leverage we had, the TA we bargained for sucked so profusely it didn’t stand a chance. Before we voted it down our MEC sent a blurb for ALPA to publish calling it the “most industry leading TA ever conceived” and this last edition basically said that we voted that down because it failed to deliver in basically all important aspects. Tis not looking promising guys and gals.

 

#FACTS

For PM to be road show selling TA 2023 with the notion that if we DONT sign this then theres going to be a furlough is ridiculous. 2015 TA was a big TURD and PM was the leader of that. Im so glad our leadership and knowledge base thought brining him back would be a great idea for another HUGE TURD in 2023. Now the company is offering TA 2023 (FAIL) +1% is just ridiculous. We have no leverage. We missed the boat. ALPA and PM are culpable. So now a big TURD sandwich in the form of a TA 2023 +1% is going to define this group going forward. 4 years of negotiations. Lost wages. Time value of money. Garbage retro. Even if theres a post tariff surge in Asia and Euro air cargo this group will fly it for premium (DRAFT) on 2015 rates and we’ll pass a TURD TA 2025 at Delta minus 15% for the WIN! FedSux wins again!

-Bubs

 

I thought TC 8 were going save us and show the company. Who’s playing right into the companies hand. A bunch of big talkers and no balls from the blue line heroes.

I thought time value of money didn’t count? Still blaming PM. Move on. JN a his lackey’s have the ball now. Blame is theirs now.