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06-02-2025 | 05:07 AM
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From: MD-11 FO
06-02-2025 | 06:25 AM
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We talk about unity and being willing to do whatever it takes to get a contract, but we can’t even get people to do the simple things like wear a specific lanyard. With this attitude, maybe the next lanyard should read “Contract 2???”
06-02-2025 | 06:28 AM
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#FACTS
For PM to be road show selling TA 2023 with the notion that if we DONT sign this then theres going to be a furlough is ridiculous. 2015 TA was a big TURD and PM was the leader of that. Im so glad our leadership and knowledge base thought brining him back would be a great idea for another HUGE TURD in 2023. Now the company is offering TA 2023 (FAIL) +1% is just ridiculous. We have no leverage. We missed the boat. ALPA and PM are culpable. So now a big TURD sandwich in the form of a TA 2023 +1% is going to define this group going forward. 4 years of negotiations. Lost wages. Time value of money. Garbage retro. Even if theres a post tariff surge in Asia and Euro air cargo this group will fly it for premium (DRAFT) on 2015 rates and we’ll pass a TURD TA 2025 at Delta minus 15% for the WIN! FedSux wins again!
-Bubs
For PM to be road show selling TA 2023 with the notion that if we DONT sign this then theres going to be a furlough is ridiculous. 2015 TA was a big TURD and PM was the leader of that. Im so glad our leadership and knowledge base thought brining him back would be a great idea for another HUGE TURD in 2023. Now the company is offering TA 2023 (FAIL) +1% is just ridiculous. We have no leverage. We missed the boat. ALPA and PM are culpable. So now a big TURD sandwich in the form of a TA 2023 +1% is going to define this group going forward. 4 years of negotiations. Lost wages. Time value of money. Garbage retro. Even if theres a post tariff surge in Asia and Euro air cargo this group will fly it for premium (DRAFT) on 2015 rates and we’ll pass a TURD TA 2025 at Delta minus 15% for the WIN! FedSux wins again!
-Bubs
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06-02-2025 | 08:51 AM
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Well, lots of the Contract 2015 people thought that Scope was just "too hard" and "they would never do that" despite IPA, Delta and others having scope clauses. PM was an extension of that cohort.
06-02-2025 | 10:47 AM
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06-02-2025 | 11:28 AM
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Did PM say at a roadshow when asked directly about outsourcing of Fedex flying "they would never do that."
I mean, you are entitled to your own rationale or explanation for the events that have transpired, and the impact to the Fedex pilot force, but you aren't entitled to your own facts.
So you can easily answer that question with a yes/no/I don't know.
I mean, you are entitled to your own rationale or explanation for the events that have transpired, and the impact to the Fedex pilot force, but you aren't entitled to your own facts.
So you can easily answer that question with a yes/no/I don't know.
06-02-2025 | 11:33 AM
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Judge for yourself
https://d2r1lrrqctgamh.cloudfront.ne...TA%20Clean.pdf
Great is subjective. Completeness far less so.
https://d2r1lrrqctgamh.cloudfront.ne...TA%20Clean.pdf
Great is subjective. Completeness far less so.
06-02-2025 | 11:49 AM
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Did PM say at a roadshow when asked directly about outsourcing of Fedex flying "they would never do that."
I mean, you are entitled to your own rationale or explanation for the events that have transpired, and the impact to the Fedex pilot force, but you aren't entitled to your own facts.
So you can easily answer that question with a yes/no/I don't know.
I mean, you are entitled to your own rationale or explanation for the events that have transpired, and the impact to the Fedex pilot force, but you aren't entitled to your own facts.
So you can easily answer that question with a yes/no/I don't know.
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