rough take here too. We need industry standard at the minimum. Period

 

1) One should expect a shakeup after a handily defeated TA... We are now in middle of the process of trying to fix failed TA
2) That occurred 2 years ago. Perhaps stuck in the 2 years ago moment...membership unconscionably voted no...guys flew draft...a recall happened after a failed TA

 

Apologies..I was simply referring to the drop BELOW the CBA's min guarantees. Everyone is down, but the ridiculous part is that the company is paying the majority of the crew force below the minimum guarantee in the contract from a bad faith company-derived status-quo-busting algorithm to calculate the SAM. At least the Triple guys are getting the minimum prescribed by the contract.

 

Did you read what I wrote? I stated early 2024, not the Fall of 2023 when the recalls for the failed TA happened. By December of 2023, every block and council had already conducted recalls and elected new reps. But some weren't happy, so they kept up the recall efforts until they got what they wanted. In early 2024, we were in the middle of a new round of negotiations with the NMB mediating the sessions. So, I'll ask again, where was this sentiment in early 2024, which wasn't 2 years ago!

 

Did I say anything about accepting less than industry standard? No!!! I just highlighted what Tuck wrote about the current MEC asks.

If you want everyone to row in the same direction, then why do you continue to stick your oar in the water and try to change it with regards to retirement when the NC has stated that they are not asking for what you want? I know, you only want the same direction if they check with you first.

 

What do you think the historic average BLG is?

 

The point being made which nobody should be twisting into some nefarious plot to minimize the plight of reduced BLGs is the fact that the CBA MINIMUM guarantee, under normal circumstances--without company shenanigans--is the MINIMUM, would be legally actionable when below, has been breached. Something everyone should just be able to "pull their oar out of the water" on and say "yes...this is BS" ...now becomes some gotcha situation. "The sky's not actually blue it is azure."

Regarding the recalls in early 2024 6 months after the failed TA when PM who owned the failed TA refused to quit and the MEC refused to facilitate what most pilot groups would have demanded, a majority decided to place MEC members who would do so. Different situation from now. This has been going on for 18 months and now we're gonna disrupt the whole process hoping we can get a PM back? If that's what the group wants, I guess that's what they'll vote for.

 

the last NC didn’t check with “Us” in 2023 when perhaps they should have.

 

The reason I asked about average BLG is because you stated that even the 777 is taking a pay cut. Just because someone pointed out that BLG's are down comparing last June to this June doesn't mean that they are taking a pay cut.

They only tried to recall 3 of the 15 reps in 2024. So, if the majority of reps were out of touch with what the membership wanted to happen, then why only 3? Those 3 could have easily been outvoted by the other 12. Your reasoning makes no sense. The MEC disrupted the process in March of 24. We haven't even been negotiating for a year since the last icing. If people want a change, they will vote for it.

 

So you agree that the membership wants a $400k FAE and a continuing A plan and you are in the minority trying to change course, or is this NC not checking with the membership?