Ties
#22
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Joined: Jul 2023
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Yo, take a look at the guy/gal next to you on your next flight. Your side is my side in this fight. You pulled the victim card for a perceived intimidation and I gave you a real example of intimidation against our most junior.
Don’t confuse our disagreements on a path with who the opponent is. It ain’t US. If you think two loud voices represent the majority then I have a chat group recommendation you should join with similar branding illusions.
Add: if you don’t wear your tie then union life will go on. It is a choice you made best for you, the same way WE (yes, you are included in that) voted down TA1. You do you, if the request is too much.
To answer your query, I saw the tie effort for what it is, a unity effort. It is absurd to expect total compliance, have we gotten compliance on last ALL IN lanyard, don’t see it.
Don’t confuse our disagreements on a path with who the opponent is. It ain’t US. If you think two loud voices represent the majority then I have a chat group recommendation you should join with similar branding illusions.
Add: if you don’t wear your tie then union life will go on. It is a choice you made best for you, the same way WE (yes, you are included in that) voted down TA1. You do you, if the request is too much.
To answer your query, I saw the tie effort for what it is, a unity effort. It is absurd to expect total compliance, have we gotten compliance on last ALL IN lanyard, don’t see it.
#23
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Joined: Jun 2013
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If one wants to encourage a unity message against the harsh reality of a 50/50 split membership, picking a mechanism that is: 1. Petty, 2. Divisive (and the fact that this is opaque to 1/2 proves the disconnect), and 3. Has no discernable visibility or impact on those this "unity" should make an impression on, is folly.
I would like to encourage a Unity message against a harsh reality of a 50/50 split- Please offer a suggestion and then Dart it in.
#24
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Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 325
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If one wants to encourage a unity message against the harsh reality of a 50/50 split membership, picking a mechanism that is: 1. Petty, 2. Divisive (and the fact that this is opaque to 1/2 proves the disconnect), and 3. Has no discernable visibility or impact on those this "unity" should make an impression on, is folly.
#25
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Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 494
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With every retirement, the package that's a 50% plus one Yes gets bigger. That's good and bad, but that's reality. Pat, Andrew, Robin and pals have made themselves a pilot group that makes Northwest 1985 look reasonable and grounded.
#27
The uniform shirt with epaulets, ID and uniform pants aren’t enough? A lack of a tie is really gonna be an issue?Other than the officials laughing to themselves. You guys are doing what to get a contract?
#28
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Joined: Jun 2025
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From: 757 FO
#29
Maybe you'll have an incident where the Aussies don't take your sunscreen from you, the French don't take your can of Monster, depending on if you have the clip-on tie on.... maybe not, but more than likely not
The choice to wear one is officially your choice now, the company put out an FCIF about it. Not suggesting anyone wear or not wear the tie either way, you like how you look with the tie on. You want your shirt collar to last longer before turning yellow in SE Asia in summer. You wear the clip-on and don't like doing the top button on your shirt collar. Is omitting a 15 dollar polyester piece of the uniform going to wake up the company into paying us what UAL/DAL make now? Probably not. Is it more comfortable and one less thing to pack, I think so.
But worrying about making it from the hotel and to the plane or from the plane and to the hotel....because you're out of the US and decided not to wear it isn't an actual concern.
Last edited by skypine27; 08-07-2025 at 05:40 PM.
#30
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Joined: May 2011
Posts: 102
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From: RJ Capt
What are they doing? Trying to show unity. Meanwhile a bunch of one way clowns run their mouthes on a dumb WhatsApp chat group and are literally trying to get paid less. Crazy!
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