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Old 05-09-2026 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by jetlaggy
FAA ia awfully quiet...
This is THE key point. FedEx engineered the fix. Boeing signed off on it.

HOWEVER, comma, it still needs to be blessed by the FAA.

I'm excited to see her fly again as much as the next guy, but I'm reluctant to get my hopes too far up until the MOC is authorized.
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Old 05-09-2026 | 07:22 AM
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You think FedEx would have continued on the path to get it flying again without keeping the FAA involved in every step? Just blindly doing it with hopes it will get approved? It will fly in a few weeks to Mia.
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Old 05-09-2026 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by EMBFlyer
That could be a one-off thing. How much does the Orbis airplane fly every year? I'd venture to say less than 300 hours.
According to sources I’ve seen the Orbis pylons have been retrofitted. I know this sounds dumb but there is a McDonnell Douglas MD-11 Facebook group where people post all sorts of photos of the work being done.

In addition to that, the NTSB hearing is coming up in a few weeks 2 days of public hearings. And I’ve seen photos of pylons being taken from the desert as well to be retrofitted and placed in service.
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Old 05-09-2026 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by md11pilot11
According to sources I’ve seen the Orbis pylons have been retrofitted. I know this sounds dumb but there is a McDonnell Douglas MD-11 Facebook group where people post all sorts of photos of the work being done.
There was a an existing retrofit (upgraded replacement part) that was authorized long before the accident. Parts were available, maybe the Orbis bird got those at some point?

They might have also got a ferry permit to move the plane for some reason.
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Old 05-09-2026 | 10:07 AM
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Orbis is a MD 10-30. Different engines and possibly different spherical bearings?
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Old 05-09-2026 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Sandybeach
You think FedEx would have continued on the path to get it flying again without keeping the FAA involved in every step? Just blindly doing it with hopes it will get approved? It will fly in a few weeks to Mia.
Agree

However, wouldn’t it be in most everyone’s best interest to scrap this airframe for something that hasn’t come apart in a fiery disaster on takeoff roll in the last decade or so?

just my opinion, for what it is worth.

the beancounter$ count!
the lawyer$ weigh the pros and cons!
the board and the exec$ decide.
and the crew-members say a prayer with takeoff power. but hey, at least the TA has a nice bump in pay!

Reminds me of a movie called: Do the right thing.

Reminds me of a video that fdx made me watch about integrity.

Reminds me of the day when I retire.
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Old 05-09-2026 | 11:38 AM
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It’s big business and there are not any used 777F available. So faster to bring the MD11 back. We need the lift. You want movement in the seniority list, not going to happen by parking planes.

Good luck finding ethics anywhere in today’s society.
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Old 05-09-2026 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Sandybeach
It’s big business and there are not any used 777F available. So faster to bring the MD11 back. We need the lift. You want movement in the seniority list, not going to happen by parking planes.

Good luck finding ethics anywhere in today’s society.
Again, I agree with you.
mostly.
outsourcing has ceiling limits, therefore, we need the lift.
but maybe … think forward instead of kicking the proverbial can down the road.
Not that it matters, but personally, seniority is way down the list because there is no list without life. dramatic? maybe. certainly not as dramatic as the fireball we all watched on the five o’clock news.

imagine a pax carrier trying to pull off this fix.

again, just my opinion folks, but the facts remain!
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Old 05-09-2026 | 01:12 PM
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What’s forward thinking? Wishing there were more 777F available?
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Old 05-09-2026 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Sandybeach
What’s forward thinking? Wishing there were more 777F available?
No.
Forward thinking is taking action when our problem children were identified, back when the parents were told to step it up or else … and step it up they did, but even the best couldn’t have prevented the fireball.
forward thinking is why the pay is so good at the very top, and people should earn that pay, which should demand vision and not … wishful thinking.
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