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Old 12-19-2025 | 07:55 PM
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Adler since you like correcting people, JD said in the 4th quarter for the MD to come back. So anytime between March and April.

Also the P to F conversion is for the 777 300ER. The conversion company had the first one doing road shows over the summer. It went to Kalitta. In the fall FedEx announced 10 777 ordered of which 8 are off the production line. The source or model of the other two was not mentioned. My bet it is a 777-300ER PF.
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Old 12-19-2025 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by HoursHore
Parking spots is the issue. I’m sure at some point they’ll figure it out, but right now you can fit 600000lbs of md 11 payload in 420000lbs of 77f spots. Also they’d have to redo entire sections on the mem ramp. Not insurmountable, esp if fuel gets to be an issue again, or a permanent grounding, but that’s what has kept the 777 from being a one for one replacement in the past.
Interesting. The AM bus driver was just telling us about new 77 spots being built. Apparently tearing down some of the older buildings that aren’t needed anymore.
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Old 12-20-2025 | 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by max8222
Adler since you like correcting people, JD said in the 4th quarter for the MD to come back. So anytime between March and April.

Also the P to F conversion is for the 777 300ER. The conversion company had the first one doing road shows over the summer. It went to Kalitta. In the fall FedEx announced 10 777 ordered of which 8 are off the production line. The source or model of the other two was not mentioned. My bet it is a 777-300ER PF.
I think you are referencing Atlasvet's comment below about JD since I didn't make a post about him.
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Fedex CFO announced that they expect the MD11 to return to service starting May 2026.
Link below is to some news about Mammoth Freighters who are doing both 777-200 and 777-300 P2F conversions.
https://www.aircargonews.net/mammoth...072250.article
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Old 12-20-2025 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
I think you are referencing Atlasvet's comment below about JD since I didn't make a post about him.


Link below is to some news about Mammoth Freighters who are doing both 777-200 and 777-300 P2F conversions.
https://www.aircargonews.net/mammoth...072250.article
777-200LR and 777-200ER are not the same airplane. They are converting 777-200LR to F. The 777F factory is a 777-200LR that’s been built as a freighter from the beginning. The -200ER has a different engine weights and model types. So at this point in time nobody is doing a 200Er conversion
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Old 12-21-2025 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Elevation
I fly for a third tier company. You guys fly for first tier companies.
Not anymore!
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Old 12-24-2025 | 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
I think you are referencing Atlasvet's comment below about JD since I didn't make a post about him.


Link below is to some news about Mammoth Freighters who are doing both 777-200 and 777-300 P2F conversions.
https://www.aircargonews.net/mammoth...072250.article

An interesting fact about Mammoth is they are located 200 yards from the FedEx ramp in AFW.
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Old 12-30-2025 | 12:48 PM
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Any news or rumors?
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Old 01-07-2026 | 10:07 AM
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You couldn't pay me all the money in the world to fly one of these flying widow makers now. Good luck to anyone brave enough to get in that cockpit again. What else is hiding underneath the hood?
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Old 01-07-2026 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by birdeater
You couldn't pay me all the money in the world to fly one of these flying widow makers now. Good luck to anyone brave enough to get in that cockpit again. What else is hiding underneath the hood?
People said the same thing about the DC-10, yet every pilot that ever flew one loved it until they were gone.
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Old 01-08-2026 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by EMBFlyer
People said the same thing about the DC-10, yet every pilot that ever flew one loved it until they were gone.
The DC-10 certainly had its share of accidents. Some of these were certainly related to engineering and some were practices that led to mechanical failures. I think what makes the DC-10 different from the MD-11 is purely the flight characteristics as a result of the modifications of the DC-10. The swept wing and small rudder being two of the biggest. The best thing they did with the MD-11 is put a ton of power on it. I guess that's probably what led to the lack of efficiency and its short lived airline passenger lifeline. Of course the twin widebodies didn't help the MD11's place in history too.

It has its quirks. But this structural issue of a wing pylon bearing failure is very concerning. The lack of any news regarding potential remedies is deafening. I hope there are more developments soon, but I would hope theres a manufacturing process developed to replace ALL parts and sections in question.

-Bubs
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