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04-11-2026 | 05:41 PM
#101
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Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 37
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Section 1
1. Expanded Definitions (Affiliate, Control, Entity, and “Not Operationally Feasible”)
2. Additional Part 121 Certificate Coverage
3. Scope Penalty Rate (SPR) Definition 4. Progressive Wet-Lease Penalty Schedule
5. Annual Wet-Lease Hours Notice and Calculation
6. 30-Day Wet-Lease Notice Requirement
7. Penalty Framework for Wet Leases Exceeding Two Bid Periods
8. Additional Penalty for Wet Leases Exceeding 26 Weeks
9. Quarterly Scope Reporting, Information Requests, and Meetings
10. No Involuntary Furlough During Section 1.B.6 Wet Leasing
11. Furlough-Related Wet-Lease Penalties and Recall Requirement
12. Parent, Affiliate, Alter-Ego, and Successorship Language
My biggest complaint is in Section 1.B.6. The old language was this:“b. Except for the minimum two aircraft wet leasing referred to above, during the bid periods described in this paragraph, the Company shall not wet lease more than the net gain of trunk aircraft scheduled to be added and brought into service in any calendar year. Should the Company violate the four bid period restriction, the Company shall pay to the Association the following for each wet lease conducted the greater of the number of block hours scheduled or flown, times 2.0, times the highest hourly rate for a three (3) man crew with fifteen (15) years of pay longevity, in addition to the international override, if any.”
The new language no longer uses that direct net gain of trunk aircraft cap. Instead, it allows wet leasing subject to a progressive penalty schedule based on:
Probably the biggest concession of the TA IMO.
1. Expanded Definitions (Affiliate, Control, Entity, and “Not Operationally Feasible”)
2. Additional Part 121 Certificate Coverage
3. Scope Penalty Rate (SPR) Definition 4. Progressive Wet-Lease Penalty Schedule
5. Annual Wet-Lease Hours Notice and Calculation
6. 30-Day Wet-Lease Notice Requirement
7. Penalty Framework for Wet Leases Exceeding Two Bid Periods
8. Additional Penalty for Wet Leases Exceeding 26 Weeks
9. Quarterly Scope Reporting, Information Requests, and Meetings
10. No Involuntary Furlough During Section 1.B.6 Wet Leasing
11. Furlough-Related Wet-Lease Penalties and Recall Requirement
12. Parent, Affiliate, Alter-Ego, and Successorship Language
My biggest complaint is in Section 1.B.6. The old language was this:“b. Except for the minimum two aircraft wet leasing referred to above, during the bid periods described in this paragraph, the Company shall not wet lease more than the net gain of trunk aircraft scheduled to be added and brought into service in any calendar year. Should the Company violate the four bid period restriction, the Company shall pay to the Association the following for each wet lease conducted the greater of the number of block hours scheduled or flown, times 2.0, times the highest hourly rate for a three (3) man crew with fifteen (15) years of pay longevity, in addition to the international override, if any.”
The new language no longer uses that direct net gain of trunk aircraft cap. Instead, it allows wet leasing subject to a progressive penalty schedule based on:
- wet-lease block hours
- as a percentage of prior-year FedEx trunk revenue block hours
- with different thresholds depending on whether the Prior Calendar Year Net Aircraft Difference is negative or non-negative.
Probably the biggest concession of the TA IMO.
04-11-2026 | 05:47 PM
#102
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Joined: Mar 2006
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From: P-3C
So they walk all over scope everyday and everywhere from belly frieght to trucking from the HUB during Peak and they’ll do it forever to make $1. They threatened to furlough at least 5 times in the last 2 years. Didn’t do it.
Also, GOT SCOPE? It’s improved from TA23. So keep being ur HARD NO. Ur a LEGO cartoon.
-Bubs
04-11-2026 | 06:34 PM
#103
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Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 37
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You’d vote no to a million dollar recovery payment and Delta +10. Why? The SCOPE!!! FURLOUGH!!!
So they walk all over scope everyday and everywhere from belly frieght to trucking from the HUB during Peak and they’ll do it forever to make $1. They threatened to furlough at least 5 times in the last 2 years. Didn’t do it.
Also, GOT SCOPE? It’s improved from TA23. So keep being ur HARD NO. Ur a LEGO cartoon.
-Bubs
So they walk all over scope everyday and everywhere from belly frieght to trucking from the HUB during Peak and they’ll do it forever to make $1. They threatened to furlough at least 5 times in the last 2 years. Didn’t do it.
Also, GOT SCOPE? It’s improved from TA23. So keep being ur HARD NO. Ur a LEGO cartoon.
-Bubs
Superior pay rates and max high 5 doesn’t matter much when displaced to the right seat or furloughed.
I need a contract as much as anyone but not willing to settle for destruction by way of shrinkage. If it’s not a possibility then great, change the language and put that in writing.
04-11-2026 | 06:52 PM
#104
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Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 37
Likes: 13
You’d vote no to a million dollar recovery payment and Delta +10. Why? The SCOPE!!! FURLOUGH!!!
So they walk all over scope everyday and everywhere from belly frieght to trucking from the HUB during Peak and they’ll do it forever to make $1. They threatened to furlough at least 5 times in the last 2 years. Didn’t do it.
Also, GOT SCOPE? It’s improved from TA23. So keep being ur HARD NO. Ur a LEGO cartoon.
-Bubs
So they walk all over scope everyday and everywhere from belly frieght to trucking from the HUB during Peak and they’ll do it forever to make $1. They threatened to furlough at least 5 times in the last 2 years. Didn’t do it.
Also, GOT SCOPE? It’s improved from TA23. So keep being ur HARD NO. Ur a LEGO cartoon.
-Bubs
04-11-2026 | 06:55 PM
#105
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Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 204
Likes: 2
You’d vote no to a million dollar recovery payment and Delta +10. Why? The SCOPE!!! FURLOUGH!!!
So they walk all over scope everyday and everywhere from belly frieght to trucking from the HUB during Peak and they’ll do it forever to make $1. They threatened to furlough at least 5 times in the last 2 years. Didn’t do it.
Also, GOT SCOPE? It’s improved from TA23. So keep being ur HARD NO. Ur a LEGO cartoon.
-Bubs
So they walk all over scope everyday and everywhere from belly frieght to trucking from the HUB during Peak and they’ll do it forever to make $1. They threatened to furlough at least 5 times in the last 2 years. Didn’t do it.
Also, GOT SCOPE? It’s improved from TA23. So keep being ur HARD NO. Ur a LEGO cartoon.
-Bubs
04-11-2026 | 08:02 PM
#106
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Joined: Sep 2025
Posts: 10
Likes: 10
Section 1
1. Expanded Definitions (Affiliate, Control, Entity, and “Not Operationally Feasible”)
2. Additional Part 121 Certificate Coverage
3. Scope Penalty Rate (SPR) Definition 4. Progressive Wet-Lease Penalty Schedule
5. Annual Wet-Lease Hours Notice and Calculation
6. 30-Day Wet-Lease Notice Requirement
7. Penalty Framework for Wet Leases Exceeding Two Bid Periods
8. Additional Penalty for Wet Leases Exceeding 26 Weeks
9. Quarterly Scope Reporting, Information Requests, and Meetings
10. No Involuntary Furlough During Section 1.B.6 Wet Leasing
11. Furlough-Related Wet-Lease Penalties and Recall Requirement
12. Parent, Affiliate, Alter-Ego, and Successorship Language
My biggest complaint is in Section 1.B.6. The old language was this:“b. Except for the minimum two aircraft wet leasing referred to above, during the bid periods described in this paragraph, the Company shall not wet lease more than the net gain of trunk aircraft scheduled to be added and brought into service in any calendar year. Should the Company violate the four bid period restriction, the Company shall pay to the Association the following for each wet lease conducted the greater of the number of block hours scheduled or flown, times 2.0, times the highest hourly rate for a three (3) man crew with fifteen (15) years of pay longevity, in addition to the international override, if any.”
The new language no longer uses that direct net gain of trunk aircraft cap. Instead, it allows wet leasing subject to a progressive penalty schedule based on:
Probably the biggest concession of the TA IMO.
1. Expanded Definitions (Affiliate, Control, Entity, and “Not Operationally Feasible”)
2. Additional Part 121 Certificate Coverage
3. Scope Penalty Rate (SPR) Definition 4. Progressive Wet-Lease Penalty Schedule
5. Annual Wet-Lease Hours Notice and Calculation
6. 30-Day Wet-Lease Notice Requirement
7. Penalty Framework for Wet Leases Exceeding Two Bid Periods
8. Additional Penalty for Wet Leases Exceeding 26 Weeks
9. Quarterly Scope Reporting, Information Requests, and Meetings
10. No Involuntary Furlough During Section 1.B.6 Wet Leasing
11. Furlough-Related Wet-Lease Penalties and Recall Requirement
12. Parent, Affiliate, Alter-Ego, and Successorship Language
My biggest complaint is in Section 1.B.6. The old language was this:“b. Except for the minimum two aircraft wet leasing referred to above, during the bid periods described in this paragraph, the Company shall not wet lease more than the net gain of trunk aircraft scheduled to be added and brought into service in any calendar year. Should the Company violate the four bid period restriction, the Company shall pay to the Association the following for each wet lease conducted the greater of the number of block hours scheduled or flown, times 2.0, times the highest hourly rate for a three (3) man crew with fifteen (15) years of pay longevity, in addition to the international override, if any.”
The new language no longer uses that direct net gain of trunk aircraft cap. Instead, it allows wet leasing subject to a progressive penalty schedule based on:
- wet-lease block hours
- as a percentage of prior-year FedEx trunk revenue block hours
- with different thresholds depending on whether the Prior Calendar Year Net Aircraft Difference is negative or non-negative.
Probably the biggest concession of the TA IMO.
”Should, at the end of the calendar year, the Company actually bring into service fewer trunk aircraft than were scheduled and based on the schedule, the Company wet leased more aircraft than would have been permitted if the scheduled additions were the same as the actual deliveries, then the Company shall pay to the Association the same monies it would have paid the Association as calculated under Section 1.B.6.a.”
There are no hard caps or limits in our current scope. Anything can be exceeded as long as the company pays the penalty. This hasn’t worsened in TA2026, the formula has just changed to make it simpler to calculate and understand.
04-12-2026 | 04:45 AM
#107
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Joined: Aug 2023
Posts: 695
Likes: 54
Section 1
1. Expanded Definitions (Affiliate, Control, Entity, and “Not Operationally Feasible”)
2. Additional Part 121 Certificate Coverage
3. Scope Penalty Rate (SPR) Definition 4. Progressive Wet-Lease Penalty Schedule
5. Annual Wet-Lease Hours Notice and Calculation
6. 30-Day Wet-Lease Notice Requirement
7. Penalty Framework for Wet Leases Exceeding Two Bid Periods
8. Additional Penalty for Wet Leases Exceeding 26 Weeks
9. Quarterly Scope Reporting, Information Requests, and Meetings
10. No Involuntary Furlough During Section 1.B.6 Wet Leasing
11. Furlough-Related Wet-Lease Penalties and Recall Requirement
12. Parent, Affiliate, Alter-Ego, and Successorship Language
My biggest complaint is in Section 1.B.6. The old language was this:“b. Except for the minimum two aircraft wet leasing referred to above, during the bid periods described in this paragraph, the Company shall not wet lease more than the net gain of trunk aircraft scheduled to be added and brought into service in any calendar year. Should the Company violate the four bid period restriction, the Company shall pay to the Association the following for each wet lease conducted the greater of the number of block hours scheduled or flown, times 2.0, times the highest hourly rate for a three (3) man crew with fifteen (15) years of pay longevity, in addition to the international override, if any.”
The new language no longer uses that direct net gain of trunk aircraft cap. Instead, it allows wet leasing subject to a progressive penalty schedule based on:
Probably the biggest concession of the TA IMO.
1. Expanded Definitions (Affiliate, Control, Entity, and “Not Operationally Feasible”)
2. Additional Part 121 Certificate Coverage
3. Scope Penalty Rate (SPR) Definition 4. Progressive Wet-Lease Penalty Schedule
5. Annual Wet-Lease Hours Notice and Calculation
6. 30-Day Wet-Lease Notice Requirement
7. Penalty Framework for Wet Leases Exceeding Two Bid Periods
8. Additional Penalty for Wet Leases Exceeding 26 Weeks
9. Quarterly Scope Reporting, Information Requests, and Meetings
10. No Involuntary Furlough During Section 1.B.6 Wet Leasing
11. Furlough-Related Wet-Lease Penalties and Recall Requirement
12. Parent, Affiliate, Alter-Ego, and Successorship Language
My biggest complaint is in Section 1.B.6. The old language was this:“b. Except for the minimum two aircraft wet leasing referred to above, during the bid periods described in this paragraph, the Company shall not wet lease more than the net gain of trunk aircraft scheduled to be added and brought into service in any calendar year. Should the Company violate the four bid period restriction, the Company shall pay to the Association the following for each wet lease conducted the greater of the number of block hours scheduled or flown, times 2.0, times the highest hourly rate for a three (3) man crew with fifteen (15) years of pay longevity, in addition to the international override, if any.”
The new language no longer uses that direct net gain of trunk aircraft cap. Instead, it allows wet leasing subject to a progressive penalty schedule based on:
- wet-lease block hours
- as a percentage of prior-year FedEx trunk revenue block hours
- with different thresholds depending on whether the Prior Calendar Year Net Aircraft Difference is negative or non-negative.
Probably the biggest concession of the TA IMO.
04-12-2026 | 05:22 AM
#108
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Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 581
Likes: 128
From: B767
why would we need contractual protection from furlough when it would be exceedingly difficult for the company to pull it off with any sense of timeliness or financial benefit? It would take years for butts to get shuffled into new seats the way we run and train big bids. Regarding scope, the company is going to do whatever they need to do- following the CBA or not. Turning this deal down for those two things alone is insane.
04-12-2026 | 06:40 AM
#109
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Joined: Aug 2023
Posts: 695
Likes: 54
why would we need contractual protection from furlough when it would be exceedingly difficult for the company to pull it off with any sense of timeliness or financial benefit? It would take years for butts to get shuffled into new seats the way we run and train big bids. Regarding scope, the company is going to do whatever they need to do- following the CBA or not. Turning this deal down for those two things alone is insane.
04-12-2026 | 08:34 AM
#110
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Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 73
Likes: 31
From: FO
Section 1
1. Expanded Definitions (Affiliate, Control, Entity, and “Not Operationally Feasible”)
2. Additional Part 121 Certificate Coverage
3. Scope Penalty Rate (SPR) Definition 4. Progressive Wet-Lease Penalty Schedule
5. Annual Wet-Lease Hours Notice and Calculation
6. 30-Day Wet-Lease Notice Requirement
7. Penalty Framework for Wet Leases Exceeding Two Bid Periods
8. Additional Penalty for Wet Leases Exceeding 26 Weeks
9. Quarterly Scope Reporting, Information Requests, and Meetings
10. No Involuntary Furlough During Section 1.B.6 Wet Leasing
11. Furlough-Related Wet-Lease Penalties and Recall Requirement
12. Parent, Affiliate, Alter-Ego, and Successorship Language
My biggest complaint is in Section 1.B.6. The old language was this:“b. Except for the minimum two aircraft wet leasing referred to above, during the bid periods described in this paragraph, the Company shall not wet lease more than the net gain of trunk aircraft scheduled to be added and brought into service in any calendar year. Should the Company violate the four bid period restriction, the Company shall pay to the Association the following for each wet lease conducted the greater of the number of block hours scheduled or flown, times 2.0, times the highest hourly rate for a three (3) man crew with fifteen (15) years of pay longevity, in addition to the international override, if any.”
The new language no longer uses that direct net gain of trunk aircraft cap. Instead, it allows wet leasing subject to a progressive penalty schedule based on:
Probably the biggest concession of the TA IMO.
1. Expanded Definitions (Affiliate, Control, Entity, and “Not Operationally Feasible”)
2. Additional Part 121 Certificate Coverage
3. Scope Penalty Rate (SPR) Definition 4. Progressive Wet-Lease Penalty Schedule
5. Annual Wet-Lease Hours Notice and Calculation
6. 30-Day Wet-Lease Notice Requirement
7. Penalty Framework for Wet Leases Exceeding Two Bid Periods
8. Additional Penalty for Wet Leases Exceeding 26 Weeks
9. Quarterly Scope Reporting, Information Requests, and Meetings
10. No Involuntary Furlough During Section 1.B.6 Wet Leasing
11. Furlough-Related Wet-Lease Penalties and Recall Requirement
12. Parent, Affiliate, Alter-Ego, and Successorship Language
My biggest complaint is in Section 1.B.6. The old language was this:“b. Except for the minimum two aircraft wet leasing referred to above, during the bid periods described in this paragraph, the Company shall not wet lease more than the net gain of trunk aircraft scheduled to be added and brought into service in any calendar year. Should the Company violate the four bid period restriction, the Company shall pay to the Association the following for each wet lease conducted the greater of the number of block hours scheduled or flown, times 2.0, times the highest hourly rate for a three (3) man crew with fifteen (15) years of pay longevity, in addition to the international override, if any.”
The new language no longer uses that direct net gain of trunk aircraft cap. Instead, it allows wet leasing subject to a progressive penalty schedule based on:
- wet-lease block hours
- as a percentage of prior-year FedEx trunk revenue block hours
- with different thresholds depending on whether the Prior Calendar Year Net Aircraft Difference is negative or non-negative.
Probably the biggest concession of the TA IMO.
1) Net change of zero to the trunk fleet.
2) Net decrease of the trunk fleet.
3) Net increase of the trunk fleet.
Thanks in advance,
Sled
