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MaydayMark 01-18-2016 04:46 AM


Originally Posted by Fedex999999 (Post 2049011)
It isn't always 777 captains. Was denied a domestic Jumpseat on an 11 once.... Crew rest plane.


My personal policy was always to take as many jumpseaters as we could legally allow. I was a commuter and always appreciated others taking me.

That said, I usually found it more comfortable for the jumpseaters and the crew if we filled up the jumpseats in the back first. If one of those looking for a ride was a young enthusiastic Commuter Airline pilot who wanted to ride up front he was welcome (they sort of reminded me of myself when I was their age).

I only had one bad experience with a jumpseater in the cockpit. Upon arrival in MEM the j/s stood up and said, "I'm a Check Airman and I want to debrief this flight." (He should have said that when he got ON the airplane ... A-HOLE!*?


:eek:

azoomietheist 01-18-2016 09:31 AM

Had a FedEx Pro Instructor miss a ground school once because the Captain denied him an open jumpseat.

The twist is that they were brothers. Family issues. Captain said it'd **** him off too much knowing his estranged brother was on the airplane.

I bet Thanksgiving was interestng that year. :eek:

MX727 01-18-2016 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by Gnaw (Post 2048339)
Post 9-11, you need a flight deck door that locks to do something like this.

Kind of sad that we can't take a retired FedEx pilot but we get these minimally vetted folks that often dress and smell like the homeless in the cockpit. That doesn't take into account the arrogance factor because they are in charge of a multi-million dollar animal. New for them, my aluminum horse is a wee bit more valuable...:rolleyes:

Waldorf 01-18-2016 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by Tuck (Post 2049095)
Seriously dude? Only at Fedex is a jumpseat seen as this huge power play by the captains. At any other airline there really isn't a question - the Captains readily give up the seats to any pilots - commuters, vacationers, whatever. For some reason at Fedex, the Captains make it a big deal. I'm not talking about the mechanics who want access to the cockpit, or the strange Fedex employee who wants to go around the world with no bags - I'm talking about just another fellow pilot who wants a ride. Here at Fedex I've seen captains murmur many times things like "can't believe what that guy is wearing to jumpseat", "jeez, he should have met us at the desk", and other similar things. It's just thought of as a common courtesy in most of the industry except for here. Now that's not the norm but it's happened enough times where it's left an impression on me - no, I'm not a commuter and I've never had any personal problems - these are actual Captains I've flown with that have done and said these things.

Seriously. Yes.

MacGuy2 01-18-2016 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by Tuck (Post 2049095)
Seriously dude? Only at Fedex is a jumpseat seen as this huge power play by the captains. At any other airline there really isn't a question - the Captains readily give up the seats to any pilots - commuters, vacationers, whatever. For some reason at Fedex, the Captains make it a big deal. I'm not talking about the mechanics who want access to the cockpit, or the strange Fedex employee who wants to go around the world with no bags - I'm talking about just another fellow pilot who wants a ride. Here at Fedex I've seen captains murmur many times things like "can't believe what that guy is wearing to jumpseat", "jeez, he should have met us at the desk", and other similar things. It's just thought of as a common courtesy in most of the industry except for here. Now that's not the norm but it's happened enough times where it's left an impression on me - no, I'm not a commuter and I've never had any personal problems - these are actual Captains I've flown with that have done and said these things.

Then what's your beef? I'm sure those who have been harmed can fend for themselves. Or do you just want to stir the pot?

MG2

busdriver12 01-18-2016 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by MacGuy2 (Post 2050180)
Then what's your beef? I'm sure those who have been harmed can fend for themselves. Or do you just want to stir the pot?

MG2

So....if it doesn't happen to him, then why should he care? He should just shuddup and not talk about it?

If someone denies another pilot a ride (except for some bizarre, extenuating circumstance), they need to understand that other people will pass that information on, and people will consider them a tool. We are all in this together, and should be treating each other with consideration.

Waveoff 01-18-2016 08:56 PM

On a trip to HNL, I got to the top of the crew stairs in IND, and the guy that flew it in from ANC (a Tigers guy), and the guy that was flying it to OAK (a Purple guy), were having it out. Many words were said. Before departure the DC-10 s/o said, "the captain says if there's an emergency, there's the handset, otherwise don't call". (He was obviously under duress). Shortly after takeoff the lights and heat for our compartment were turned off. I don't know who I was sitting next to, or why, but for several hours, we exchanged sweaters to wrap around our feet because the cabin got below 30 degrees.

Waldorf 01-18-2016 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by Waveoff (Post 2050306)
On a trip to HNL, I got to the top of the crew stairs in IND, and the guy that flew it in from ANC (a Tigers guy), and the guy that was flying it to OAK (a Purple guy), were having it out. Many words were said. Before departure the DC-10 s/o said, "the captain says if there's an emergency, there's the handset, otherwise don't call". (He was obviously under duress). Shortly after takeoff the lights and heat for our compartment were turned off. I don't know who I was sitting next to, or why, but for several hours, we exchanged sweaters to wrap around our feet because the cabin got below 30 degrees.

Really? A story from almost 20yrs ago? We haven't had DC10s for almost 15yrs. And almost all of the Tigers guys are gone.

busdriver12 01-18-2016 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by Waldorf (Post 2050323)
Really? A story from almost 20yrs ago? We haven't had DC10s for almost 15yrs. And almost all of the Tigers guys are gone.

Hmm, seems we still have a number of Tigers guys on the seniority list, but it has been a long time since the DC10s were around. I guess that's a good thing if the stories are old. Heard a lot of stories about captains way back when, not very many now.

Huck 01-19-2016 01:11 AM

I flew 2600 hours on the 77 in four years....never saw any problems with people jumpseating whatsoever.....only two bad captains in all that time. One's retired, and one's going to get busted for stealing, eventually......


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