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Old 09-03-2015, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Laughing_Jakal View Post
"Then they should have just said the bonus only applies for retirements after a pilot reaches 60 years of age. ..."
This!

The Company has a history of dragging negotiations out well past the amendable dates of our contracts. With this TA, pilots that wish to retire at 60 in 2022-2024(ish) will be doing so without the SLB.

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Old 09-03-2015, 08:02 AM
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How about this proposition:

Let's have an airline contract in which everyone 37-44 years old receives a $100K bonus. No one else - just those guys.

Sound reasonable? No? Then why is it reasonable when it's a different age group?

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No....because it still doesn't include ME! I've been the hole in the donut of every #$%#$%@#$%#$@ deal that comes down this way. I keep being patient....."Your day will come Jakal"...I think I'm naive.
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Old 09-03-2015, 10:30 AM
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Answer as to why during the video conference today was to get funds to the guys retiring during the contract. Those under 54 would be able to capitalize on the 2% bump to B fund to get theirs with compounding.

What a crock of sh!t batman!
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Old 09-03-2015, 12:08 PM
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I didn't get the VEBA deal either. But, I'll get this one. I was mad... now I'm glad. Just the way this contract works out for the people who will retire under this contract.
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I didn't get the VEBA deal either. But, I'll get this one. I was mad... now I'm glad. Just the way this contract works out for the people who will retire under this contract.
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But, there are those that will get both! Good for them, right?
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Old 09-03-2015, 01:04 PM
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Answer as to why during the video conference today was to get funds to the guys retiring during the contract. Those under 54 would be able to capitalize on the 2% bump to B fund to get theirs with compounding.

What a crock of sh!t batman!
Okay, I have to admit, that reason is pathetic. So if you're 53 and 364 days old on DOS, you have 40K more ability to capitalize on the B fund bump than the guy who turns 54 on DOS? Oh, the difference a day makes.

I was expecting some sort of reasonable explanation, but that answer was really terrible. I'm hoping they just answered it incorrectly. I' much rather hear that that was all the company was willing to give, than such a pathetic explanation. It sounds more like buying off the older guy vote.
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Old 09-03-2015, 01:15 PM
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Just like they bought the older vote with the 25K VEBA last time.

But that is gone now for this TA. Funny how that works.

I wouldn't expect the 40K to be there next go around.
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Does anyone know what the percentage of pilots is, who will be 54+ on the proposed DOS? I'm really just asking.
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Originally Posted by pipe View Post
How about this proposition:

Let's have an airline contract in which everyone 37-44 years old receives a $100K bonus. No one else - just those guys.

Sound reasonable? No? Then why is it reasonable when it's a different age group?

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Let me be clear. I never said it was reasonable! I AGREE! IT IS UNREASONABLE, UNFAIR AND DIVIDES AND CONQUERS PILOT UNITY!
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Originally Posted by USMCFDX View Post
Answer as to why during the video conference today was to get funds to the guys retiring during the contract. Those under 54 would be able to capitalize on the 2% bump to B fund to get theirs with compounding.

What a crock of sh!t batman!
The math:
53 year old (with 25 years) gets an extra 1% to B fund for next four years. I will use an average earning of 250,000 = 2,500 x 4 = 10,000
Age 57 gets 2% for next three years and retires at 60.
5000 x 3 = 15,000. Total = $25,000 extra in B fund.

Now a 54 year old gets 1% extra a year to B fund from 54 to 58 = $10,000 and 2% for subsequent two years if retires at 60 years old. 5000 x 2 = 10,000. total $20,000 extra B fund. Plus $30,000 extra bonus for being 54 with 25 years.

$50,000 vs. $25,000 for being one day older!
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