That wow moment
09-01-2015 | 07:32 AM
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From: MD-11 Captain
How about this WOW moment?
Last month we found out that we were improperly shipping (carrying on our airplanes!) LIVE BIO-TERROR GERMS!
Now there's a missing RADIOACTIVE shipment?
Radioactive material sent to Texas A & M goes missing - CBS News
Maybe this is why we should be paid better than the pax carrying folks?
http://wabe.org/post/fedex-says-it-w...-viruses-ebola
http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/...-through-fedex
Now there's a missing RADIOACTIVE shipment?
Radioactive material sent to Texas A & M goes missing - CBS News
Maybe this is why we should be paid better than the pax carrying folks?
http://wabe.org/post/fedex-says-it-w...-viruses-ebola
http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/...-through-fedex
09-04-2015 | 11:23 AM
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From: A proponent of...
Looking over this TA I am really beginning to see where this is probably a big net positive for the Company. POP changes, intercontinental DH changes, crap retirement increases and much more.
I believe they really think we are fools, which we are. It reminds me of going into 580 Nanjing in PVG with a new guy to Asia. He wants to buy something and when he gets it for 5% less than was offered he thinks he got a good deal.
Not everyone here is like that. But enough to allow the 50%+1 vote on a TA. We should all read the dang TA and honestly ask if it compensates us appropriately. Not ask is it the best we can get, etc. Lets act like vertebrates.
I believe they really think we are fools, which we are. It reminds me of going into 580 Nanjing in PVG with a new guy to Asia. He wants to buy something and when he gets it for 5% less than was offered he thinks he got a good deal.
Not everyone here is like that. But enough to allow the 50%+1 vote on a TA. We should all read the dang TA and honestly ask if it compensates us appropriately. Not ask is it the best we can get, etc. Lets act like vertebrates.
09-04-2015 | 01:53 PM
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From: DA-40
My wow moment was---as I read each section I began to realize there are so many concessions or items that remain status quo ( or very very little improvement)--- all for a MERE COLA!!!!! My additional WOW was realizing so many of us are actually HAPPY or RELIEVED when a section or item didn't DEGRADE! After 4+ years of negotiations and record profits ---COLA, concessions, or status quo ( WOW)
09-05-2015 | 11:17 AM
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From: B777
It's public math and I could be wrong, but let's go with it.
Assume 15 yr W/B Capt, 1,000 CH per year, and that 'normal' 3% raise each year:
So 3% per year would be $291.18 or 12% of current book. That means there's a perpetual 2% deficit 
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And notice that the $35K 'bonus' would only cover next year's deficit of $4,510
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Assume 15 yr W/B Capt, 1,000 CH per year, and that 'normal' 3% raise each year:
Code:
Rate 1,000 CH Lost per yr
Mar-12 $260.61 $260,610.00
Mar-13 $268.43 $268,430.00 $7,820.00
Mar-14 $276.48 $276,480.00 $8,050.00
Mar-15 $284.78 $284,780.00 $8,300.00
Nov-15 $291.18 $291,180.00 $6,400.00
total lost $30,570.00
. And notice that the $35K 'bonus' would only cover next year's deficit of $4,510
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