A Perspective and Opinion of the Current TA
09-24-2015 | 08:58 AM
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From: B777
. Perhaps they should have just emailed the PurpleTA link or we could save them postage and email it to all our contacts (seriously!). The earlier Rep opinions are included in the pro/con paper. Note the Rep messages are bullet statements and not an in-depth evaluation of many of the worrisome parts of the TA.I’ve been trying to educate myself as best as I can on this TA by not only reading the document itself but also looking at the opinions online and talking to fellow crewmembers. I’m a fence sitter at this point, but I’ve noticed a lack of what I consider to be a few important pieces of information when considering to vote yes or no.
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Third, this needs to be a business decision not an emotional one. I remember the saying “don’t let your mad get in front of your money”. Not much mention is made of monetary losses and how long it would take to recoup that money while waiting on a renegotiation. That has to come off the bottom line of any possible future improvement. It could be worth it for some (assuming we get improvements) and a wash or loss for others depending on when you plan to retire.
Just some observation and opinion, some days I’m a yes and some a no. There are both things to like and dislike in the TA. Educate yourself!
BB
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Third, this needs to be a business decision not an emotional one. I remember the saying “don’t let your mad get in front of your money”. Not much mention is made of monetary losses and how long it would take to recoup that money while waiting on a renegotiation. That has to come off the bottom line of any possible future improvement. It could be worth it for some (assuming we get improvements) and a wash or loss for others depending on when you plan to retire.
Just some observation and opinion, some days I’m a yes and some a no. There are both things to like and dislike in the TA. Educate yourself!
BB
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09-24-2015 | 10:04 AM
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How are you coming up with four years? We have missed the 2013, 2014, and 8 months of the 2015 pay raise. That's 2.67 years. 10% over that period of time is 3.75%/year. Better than the 3% you are using.
09-24-2015 | 11:39 AM
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Just to keep the debate on an even keel, I don't think you can call a lack of "cash over cap" language for the B fund a concession. It would have been a great improvement for those earning more than the compensation limit but since we have never had this benefit it isn't a concession.
09-24-2015 | 12:50 PM
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And it's not like every seat is understaffed. Open time trading available in a few hours, Airbus captains only have three trips open for the entire five week period of October. Two six hour trips, one eight hour trip. I thought the company agreed not to do that?
09-24-2015 | 01:02 PM
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. Your last raise was Mar2012, Mar2013 = 1, Mar2014= 2, Mar2015= 3, Mar2016= 4. Wait, I over-counted by 4 or 5 months since the deal moves the DOS to Nov. Call the difference between Nov and Mar your real raise. The overall point is that the company didn't even give us our 'normal' 3%/yr since the last raise (not over the amendable period as I mistakenly said before).
09-24-2015 | 01:52 PM
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Just to keep the debate on an even keel, I don't think you can call a lack of "cash over cap" language for the B fund a concession. It would have been a great improvement for those earning more than the compensation limit but since we have never had this benefit it isn't a concession.
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