A Perspective and Opinion of the Current TA
09-23-2015 | 12:11 PM
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Jolly, take a look at Dan's timeline calculations again. Remember that the vote for this TA closes 20 Oct. At one point Dan mentions 60 days. That would be roughly 20 Dec. At another he says "by Thanksgiving". That would be just over 35 days.
Given what will have to happen if this TA gets voted down on 20 Oct, how would you define "a bit longer"? I ask, because you say that is all we have to risk by voting the current TA down.
Given what will have to happen if this TA gets voted down on 20 Oct, how would you define "a bit longer"? I ask, because you say that is all we have to risk by voting the current TA down.
Personally, I don't care if it took a lot longer. Reason is that I know what I am dealing with in our present CBA. I can keep my health insurance costs "known". I know how to deal with CRS antics and not with a big unknown in the proposed TA with peak coming up.
WE ALL NEED TO GROW A COLLECTIVE PAIR! NO NO NO NO NO
09-23-2015 | 01:33 PM
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Rock,
Personally, I don't care if it took a lot longer. Reason is that I know what I am dealing with in our present CBA. I can keep my health insurance costs "known". I know how to deal with CRS antics and not with a big unknown in the proposed TA with peak coming up.
Personally, I don't care if it took a lot longer. Reason is that I know what I am dealing with in our present CBA. I can keep my health insurance costs "known". I know how to deal with CRS antics and not with a big unknown in the proposed TA with peak coming up.
Can't wait for my "SAME CONTRACT NOW!" Lanyard. I'm guessing light blue this time?
09-23-2015 | 02:48 PM
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Jolly, take a look at Dan's timeline calculations again. Remember that the vote for this TA closes 20 Oct. At one point Dan mentions 60 days. That would be roughly 20 Dec. At another he says "by Thanksgiving". That would be just over 35 days.
Given what will have to happen if this TA gets voted down on 20 Oct, how would you define "a bit longer"? I ask, because you say that is all we have to risk by voting the current TA down.
Given what will have to happen if this TA gets voted down on 20 Oct, how would you define "a bit longer"? I ask, because you say that is all we have to risk by voting the current TA down.
Who cares? You keep talking about a timeline for getting a new TA. If that is your main worry it is not much to worry about.
09-23-2015 | 03:11 PM
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Who cares? Apparently Dan and Jolly. They are the people who brought it up. I get you have no concept of how conversations work. But here's a suggestion. Instead of asking me why the subject turns up over and over and over again....why don't you ask the people who initiate "timelines" as a point of their discussion?
09-23-2015 | 03:27 PM
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I don't believe in coincidences. After years of negotiating (stone walling?), Management asked for mediation. After months of mediation Management suddenly agrees to a TA just in time for Peak.
If we vote this TA down, polling & additional mediation probably takes us through this years Peak? So what ... we should keep doing this until we get it right.
More negotiations will cost ALPA and the Company more money. It would be nice if they would throw some of that cost our way as a sign of good faith and better employee morale?
Disappointed ...
09-23-2015 | 03:45 PM
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Mark, the company obviously needs no help with contract negotiating strategy, but at this point I suspect they are following the tested and true practice of letting an opponent that is self-destructing continue the process unaided. I don't think they'll be cutting us checks anytime soon. Probably just setting up deck chairs and making popcorn.
09-23-2015 | 04:44 PM
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I will say, it's worth taking a few minutes and reading the Delta TA board on APC to find out what their life is like now. They voted their TA down in July. They still don't have a functioning MEC. In fact, they are still in the process of recalling members of their MEC. No idea if we'll follow the same path if we vote no. I hope not.
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